Montana Halts Wolf Hunting near Yellowstone

In response to recent kills of collared wolves Montana wildlife commissioners have decided to shut down hunting and trapping in areas east and west of the town Gardiner, just days before the trapping season was set to open. Shooting a collared wolf is legal as long as it is done within the state’s hunting regulations. Wildlife commissioners have yet to yield to pressure from wildlife advocates… Read the Full Article >

Montana Halts Wolf Hunting near Yellowstone Montana Halts Wolf Hunting near Yellowstone

Alterations to Wisconsin Wolf Hunting Rule Regarding Dogs

“The Department of Natural Resources will present a wolf hunting rule next week that is little changed from the version that drew a lawsuit and temporary injunction this fall. The rule, detailed in a draft known as a "Green Sheet," would spell out several minor regulations on the training of dogs for wolf hunting, the most controversial part of the Wisconsin wolf hunting and trapping law.” Hunting… Read the Full Article >

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Fifty Wolves Killed During Opening Weekend in Minnesota

"Hunters killed at least 50 wolves during the opening weekend of Minnesota's first managed wolf hunt, the Department of Natural Resources said.” Read the full article here. The Department of Natural Resources estimated that there would be about 70 wolves taken opening weekend. This is just a 2% success rate for the 3,600 hunters who hold an early season license. So far hunters have reported… Read the Full Article >

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Minnesota Hunters Snatch-up Leftover Wolf Licenses

Minnesota hunters were eager to snatch up the 614 leftover wolf tags for the early season this past Monday. Within minutes of opening the sale of tags to hunters, all tags were spoken for. "I heard they were gone in 3 1/2 minutes,'' said Ed Boggess, Department of Natural Resources Fish and Wildlife Division director. There were a total of 3,600 tags offered for the early season hunt and 2,400 tags… Read the Full Article >

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Wisconsin Hunters Bag 4 Wolves on Opening Day

Dedicated Wisconsin hunters wasted no time yesterday taking full advantage of the state's first wolf hunt.  By the end of the day four wolves had been reported killed on the Wisconsin DNR website .  The statewide quota is only 116 wolves, and with over 1,160 licences awarded through a random lottery, hunters looking to bag a wolf are wise to start soon. Of the four wolves harvested so… Read the Full Article >

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Welcome to HuntWolves.com

Hunt Wolves.com- Everything you need to know to get your wolf skin rug

This is a website dedicated to the United States newest game species the Gray Wolf. That’s right; thanks to the all the hard work from our friends in the Sierra Club, Defenders of Wildlife, & Western Watersheds, Idaho, Montana, Minnesota, & Wisconsin have an exciting new hunting season. For years environmentalists plead for the gray wolf to be restocked in the Rockies. For the past 14 years the hunters in Idaho, Montana, and other states have stood by as deer and elk populations have been decimated, ranchers have stood by while their livelihood was eaten before their eyes, and the rest of the residents of these states have footed the bill for a federally mandated reintroduction. The residents of these states will finally reap the benefits of the climbing wolf population through state run hunting seasons. If you’re interested in hunting wolves, you’ve come to the right place for hunting tips, laws and regulations, and everything else you’ll need to know to bag a wolf.

  • Cambybonds

    Is there anywhere within a decent drive to hunt wolves in states nearby Indiana?

    • http://wwww.huntwolves.com Hunt Wolves

      Wisconsin and Minnesota have a good population of wolves, but a hunting
      season in those states is not likely a reality in the near future. In
      the continental U.S Montana is going to be your closest state that will
      definitely have a wolf season this year. Another alternative that would
      be to venture North to Canada where much of the year wolves can be
      hunted most of the year.depending on the province.

    • Coeus

       Try Chicago. The biggest wolf of all has just become Mayor.

  • http://wwww.huntwolves.com Hunt Wolves

    Wisconsin and Minnesota have a good population of wolves, but a hunting season in those states is not likely a reality in the near future. In the continental U.S Montana is going to be your closest state that will definitely have a wolf season this year. Another alternative that would be to venture North to Canada where much of the year wolves can be hunted most of the year.depending on the province.

  • Coeus

    typical uneducated idiot. It’s LIVELIHOOD 

  • Ponder

    WOLF ADVOCATES STILL HARASSING HUNTERS

    The wolf advocates are still threatening the Montana successful wolf hunters as of this June 2011.This discussion has been recorded off – http://howlingforjustice.wordpress.com/2011/06/01/cry-wolf-by-bill-gibson-earth-island-journal/The list of Montana hunters is still posted – http://howlingforjustice.wordpress.com/wall-of-shame-wolf-killers-montana-2009/……………………………………On June 1, 2011 at 10:20 am Gretchen Smith said: I am new to this website (howlingforjustice.wordpress.com) and have a question. There is a list of wolf-killers by name on one of the pages. Have these people been contacted and emailed about what they are doing? I found some horribly upsetting photos on another site showing some of the people listed posing with their dead wolves in “boasting” pictures. No creature, let alone wolves, should be treated with such disrespect as these photos show. I have located some of the people in the photos and have been emailing them, all within the law and an attorney’s approval, of course. These people should know they are being seen doing these cruel, cruel acts, don’t you think?Reply  On June 1, 2011 at 12:03 pm Nabeki (Wendy Keefover – Ring)said: Gretchen….I posted the names after the Montana hunts were over. For the wolves, For the wild ones,Nabeki (Wendy Keefover – Ring)……………………………………………..The organizer of this website and organization is – Wendy Keefover-Ring  AKA – NABEKIPHOTO:http://vodpod.com/nabekiWendy Keefover-Ring  AKA – NABEKIWendy has been a leader in carnivore protection since 1998, aiming to end the indiscriminate killing of predators in the West. She built a coalition that stopped contest hunting in Colorado—the first state in the West to do so. She also began an ongoing campaign to expose the federal government’s use of toxic poisons intended for predators. In 1999, Wendy organized a national coalition of grassroots groups that are working to ban aerial gunning of wildlife. She works with regional organizations on a variety of predator and prairie dog issues.  Prior to joining the Guardians, Wendy worked on anti-trapping initiatives in Colorado and Arizona. She also served on the former Sinapu’s Board. Previously, she worked at The Land and Water Fund of the Rockies and as a paralegal. She holds an M.A in history from the University of Colorado with a research focus on environmental activism among women in early Colorado. wendy@wildearthguardians.org or 505.988.9126x1162Main office: 312 Montezuma Avenue, Santa Fe, NM 87501 Phone: 505.988.9126 For Colorado residents: 303.573.4898 info@wildearthguardians.org …nabeki Says: February 3, 2010 at 12:45 PM SB….I posted it because I’m a wolf advocate and felt it was important. You may not agree with it, that’s your right. Anyone has access to this info. It’s not as if it’s a secret.Talk about harassment, you should read some of the hateful comments I got on this issue but again public record. MONTANA WOLF LIST ON BLOGhttp://howlingforjustice.wordpress.com/wall-of-shame-wolf-killers-montana-2009/Date: 9/19/2008  Press ReleaseAuthor: WildEarth GuardiansContact: Wendy Keefover-Ring, WildEarth Guardians, (303) 819-5229Email: wkeefoverring@wildearthguardians.org 340 S 42nd StBoulder, CO 80305-5454(303) 596-3756http://www.wildearthguardians.org/Portals/0/support_docs/letter-orszag_2_09.pdf

  • Pitbulllover

    This is what none of you get. The wolves were here before us humans. We came in, took over their territory and killed them. They became extinct. Believe it or not, the wolves were REintroduced and are not abusing their surroundings in any way. Did you know: wolves NATURAL prey is deer! And, as you said, they are dogs. I know wolves far better than any of you, and trust me they do not see humans as prey. They see most of us as threats that should be avoided but never attacked.

    • Tyrel

      Have you ever even seen a wild wolf? I’m sorry but the wolves you see in California on your TV are carefully selected shots. I used to be pro wolf until I visited the Elk refuge in Jackson Hole and saw with my own eyes that wolves had killed over a dozen calves and had barely eaten any of them.  It was slaughter for fun.  I have never felt the same about wolves since.  That’s why I own a wolf tag.

  • Pitbulllover

    Ummm… Wolves never had predatores in the first place. And natural causes take care of them. Oh yha, have you ever had a loved on die? Great lesson, wasn’t it!

  • Pitbulllover

    They know you are hunters. Wolves are a lot smarter than we think. These ones probably knew you were disrupting the wildlife so they set out to kill you. They saw you as a threat, killing their elk for no reason. I advise you to stop hunting.

  • Greg23

    Check out the anti-wolf clothing at http://www.cafepress.com/sportsmanhill/6330470

  • Warmaster79

    Yes Wolves are beautiful and comfortable,…..When they are under my feet, in the place of the rug or around my body in a wolf skin jacket
    , buddy of mine had a wolf skin jacket and it felt amazing just to wear it. 

  • Anonymous

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  • wolf haterName

    Its pretty easy to pass judgement when u are hundreds of miles away and have never seen the devestation that these un managed killing mechines have caused a lot of us hunter depened upon meat from the elk and deer that r no longer around because someone in california or newyork THINK that they r such a beatifull creature u come to north east montana walk up any draw and u will see piles and piles of bones or an un eaten elk or deer that they have killed just to kill u say the people in the cities have to lock there houses and animals up every night well that’s there choice to live there we live in the country to get away from the crime and peoplebut yet they still try to tell us how we r going to live with these diseased animals

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  • Hunt a republican

    Along with ammunition and licenses hunters should invest in penis pumps too, because lord knows all you retarded poorly educated over weight inbread fags have dicks measuring the size of your bullets.

    • Mariegentile

      Hey what other stereotypes do you have for people? Because you know, you seem like someone who knows EVERYONE.

  • Carole Richmond

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  • Carole Richmond

    Lampshades made out of the skins of idiot hunters are also quite attractive.

  • Marie

     I don’t care much for hunting either but it can benefit the ecosystem. If you let the gray wolf continue to populate, then the population of deer and elk are going to dwindle and the ecosystem will be out of whack. When that happens then all organisms suffer, including the wolves which some of you so desperately believes needs to be saved. Instead of harassing hunters, why not do something productive like supporting organizations that are trying to bring down fur farms? Seriously raising animals in cages just for their fur is much more inhumane. 
    Also there is no need to be rude to each other just because both sides have different opinions. Actually if you really think about it both sides (people for and against hunting) probably share similar concerns such as wildlife conservation as well as the protection of certain wildlife. Hunting is not a year round thing for a reason. Certain animals and certain weapons are allowed at certain seasons. If hunting were year round then again, there would be a problems with the ecosystem. It seems like both sides need to be more open minded with each other.

    • Cravenrun

      Top tier predators like the wolf keep herbivores from negatively impacting the fauna.  They keep the mts. healthy.

    • Joy Jiang

      Predators keep prey population in check and vice versa! Without the start of human interference, the nature never goes out of balance. Now finally the wolf population seems to have went back on the normal and natural track after reintroduction, and people are hunting them again? That could only lead to negative impact on wolf population. Why can’t we just wait for a few more yrs till we are completely clear about all the disease mechanisms and the carrying capacity? 

  • Brmjrm

    I have done much research on this subject, I dont normally side with the eviromentalists but in this case I must. If you need to hunt to feed your family fine hunnt away. Take a couple deer a year and stock your freezer, but why kill a wolf? Their population is not strong enough to support a hunt. Furthermore these wolves that breed like rabbits must be a super mutated breed only found in your feeble mind. Wolves mate once a year in january or febuary and have a justation (sic) period of 63 days. Yes they have a llitter but only consisting of 3-4 pups at a time, sometimes more but not normally. Yes wolves have been known to kill livestock these are free range cattle that are put out with no supervision. If i were a rancher in a wolf state i think i would want to keep an eye on my herd a little better in order to protect it. Wildlife has not been significantly impacted by wolves either. Now you cant get three somme times four tags in a year? How sad for you. Please so more research before you go running out to kill a wolf. Onnr last thing, theres less than a 10% chance of bagging a wolf in the wild.

    • Austin8178

      u obviously havnt done much research on this cause the elk herd in the yellowstone area is down 90% since the wolf reintroduction and only one percent  of hunters are successful during a six month long wolf season in idaho so i think the population can sustain that      piss poor research on your part

      • Cravenrun

        Better re-check your facts. Or do you believe in all rumors?

    • Nate B

      A rancher in wolf country still has to make a profit to survive.  The cost to employ enough people to monitor a herd 24 hours a day would put a rancher so far in to the red even Obama would be impressed.  You are the ignorant one Brmjrm.  Talk to a rancher if you get a chance, I think you’ll learn a lot if you happen to listen.

    • Sweetfreedomgirl

      If there is less than a 10% chance of bagging a wolf in the wild, then you shouldn’t be worried about them.

      As far as ranchers keeping a better eye on their livestock….consider this.  In order to do so would require hiring more ranch hands to fully cover the areas that their livestock is grazing on. These employees do not come free and the rancher would then need to past on these expenses to the end buyer….you and everyone who eats a hamburger or steak. And just wait for the wailing and gnashing of teeth then!

  • Jmenath

    hunting or no hunting. The true animal that suffers is the wolf. Whats going to happen when there are no more elk or deer to eat. The wolf then dies of starvation or migrates to a place where there are a few animals left. What can keep an Apex preditor in check? Nothing! Humans are the only thing. Whether its goverment trappers or hunters we must have a balanced ecosystem. Right now we are on the verge of loosing control and everything will suffer.

    • Joy Jiang

      Well, sorry, but you are apparently wrong about this: the nature does keep wolves in check. Besides the predator-prey population fluctuation cycle, there are still diseases and interspecies competition that stop wolf population from going too high. If you try to briefly go thru the Yellowstone Wolf Project Annual Report of yr 2010 you’ll find that the YS wolf population is actually going into an equilibrium after a consecutive of 2-yr decline. The current population is only half of the documented highest number, which some people referred to as “too many”. This clearly shows that nature does take its course, and better without the interference of human activity. Humans are not god, we do not have power over everything. What humans can do is just the action on the surface, but the mechanism of ecosystem is never a superficial thing, it’s far deeper than what we can confidently manage.

  • Anonymous

    A co-worker and I were elk hunting last weekend in N. Idaho and we had 4 wolves watch us from ~200 yards away from the moment we left my truck at the trailhead. The rest of the pack was in the trees below, howling for the 4 others to apparently regroup. It was an unsettling experience to say the least, especially when they converged on us farther up the trail, totally unafraid. There are more wolves in Idaho than people think and they are not afraid of humans; hunters, hikers, children or the family Rottweiller.
    We saw only one lone elk (no deer) that day in an otherwise pristine, deer and elk mountain mecca. There are more wolves than deer or elk there now compared to past years. Wolves eat 5 to 10 pounds of meat per wolf, per day. That is alot of deer and elk meat. Contrary to belief, wolves DO NOT strengthen a ungulate population by only removing the weak or diseased. Wolves target the young and the females, especially the cow elk and doe deer when they are carrying fetuses and are unable to escape attack. I would consider the elk and deer carrying babies (especially twins) inside them would be the strongest, healthiest of the population, yet they are the most vulnerable to wolf predation and targeted specifically, especially in snow which the wolves walk on top of while the ungulates’ hooves sink down into.
    Wolves DO kill for sport, as they did a few years ago in Dillon, MT whereas a wolf pack killed 120 sheep (http://missoulian.com/news/state-and-regional/article_5ff01772-938f-11de-9aca-001cc4c03286.html) in one single, killing-spree attack. Around CdA, Idaho, snowmobilers often find several cow elk dead in one spot with the fetuses ripped from their bellies but the rest left to waste. Wolves are top predators that can, do, and have shown why they were so aggressively hunted in the first place deacdes ago. I now fully support the wolf population control in Idaho based on what I have seen and learned first-hand.

    • Cravenrun

      Try hiking out there without your guns.  Not so brave now?  The wolves hunt to live.  What are you doing out there?

      • Benedict

        That’s the way to do it. People who hunt wolves and kill them from a distance are cowardly. Knives, axes, even spears, that’s how you should do it.

      • guest

        @0e698e24430971d18d639a653ed5790d:disqus  Did you read the post before you commented?  He was supplying anecdotes and a news article about these wolves killing beyond what they needed for food.  He gave a direct example of wolves hunting beyond what it takes to live.  I sort of stand on the fence with this issue so I’m not trying to bash you, but read the mans comment before you reply to it.  It makes you look stupid.

        • cooper

          Note taken.  Thank you.
          Were these sheep grazing on public lands?  Would a herd of wild sheep stand around and be killed in these numbers?  I feel that cattle and sheep do not belong on public lands.  It costs the tax payer more to have them there than not.  Quit being the pawn of the livestock industry.  Eat less meat. Your body will thank you.

      • Mtman41

        Yes you are sooooo brave because you strap on your hiking boots (made of dead cow hyde I’ll wager) and walk a trail on public land.  Based on reading your comments I can tell I’m violating one of my sacred rules; never argue with a moron.  I do not live in a world of theorecticals, I live, work and recreate in wolf country- unarmed 90% of the time.  What you don’t understand is independant beef and wool producers depend on public lands to make their livelihood.  These folks are the opposite of agrobiz. They are able to utilize public lands with very little long term impact on the ecosystem and they have a very small profit margin-if any.  Drive them out of business by taking away their grazing lease and you force them to sell off the land that they do have.  Guess who buys it? -Developers!  Then you get ranchettes and subdivisions which means habitat loss.  So now we have people, game animals and wolves losing.  You think you are smart and in tune with nature or whatever but in reality you are so far removed from it that you may never understand.  Rather than driving your suburban to the trailhead next summer go help a rancher for a day, get dirty, do something that exposes you to the ethical use of natural resources.  You need to understand that we all exploit nature, just because you are many steps removed from the raw materials does not make you exempt.  It’s the ranchers, farmers, loggers, hunters, etc that allow you to live you cushy (and no doubt urban) existence.

  • Cravenrun

    Try going up against a wolf with your bare hands.  If that was the criteria the woods would be free of all wolf hunters.

  • Anonymous

    I hunt one (1) elk or deer, per year to help feed my family. For about $20 for a tag, that’s economic common-sense during a recession. “Armchair Naturalists” who don’t step foot outside the city sidewalks base little on facts or reality.
    Fact: Wolves are indiscriminate hunters that do not only kill for food. Why else would a pack of wolves kill (but not eat) 120 sheep in one attack in Dillon, Montana? Is this wolves, as you say, ”just trying to live”? Please answer that.
    I just pointed out in my letter that wolves are truly decimating other wildlife in their territories. They have zero natural enemies. Just like an alligator in a pond, the prey species gradually is decimated. In this case it is happening quickly and obviously for those people actually in the woods where wolves roam. It’s a shame that alligators don’t look so furry and cuddly, otherwise you would be spending your time defending them.

    • Aa

      It is horrible to kill wolves. Ticks me off

  • Jdoe

    Eat wolves they taste like Elk

    • Cravenrun

      Do they?  Are you sure?  You probably even think you are a carnivore.  You are not.

  • Anonymous

    Most people dont know the gray wolf was already here and was doing just fine in the mountains of Idaho and Montana. There was no hunting of the wolf at that tme. The amount of Wolves that were here did not  impact the herds until they introduced the a mixed breed of wolf into our states. It is a proven fact that the wolves have decimated the elk and deer heards in the areas they were introduced. The Timberwolf also crossbred with the gray wolf. Thus the population exploding. I have hunted an area since I was 10 years old. In the sping we would go up and watch hundreds of elk in their calving area. We did this for years. Now in the same area we might see a heard of 10-20 at them most.  Also during hunting season we would hunt for a week at az time. Seeing multiple herds. Many out of state hunters form California to NY and became friends with alot of them. the wolves have made such an impact on the elk population they no longer come to Idaho to hunt. This not only ruins family traditons and seeing friends. It also hurts many of the outfitters and local stores econimically due to no elk to be hunted.  Many small diners, gas stations and motels are and have been hurt to to this so called “re-introduction”  KILL EVERY WOLF YOU SEE-TAG NONE!

    • Cravenrun

      It is not a proven fact that the wolf has decimated the herds.  Loss of habitat is certainly one cause.  The grasslands are disappearing to forested tracts and man is moving his home into the home of the herds..  Quit blaming your ‘problems’ on wolves and deal with those problems .

      • Mtman41

        Yes we should all just move into cities and turn every last piece of rural land into a game preserve.  Oh except for you, you get your own little cabin on your twenty acres…… Thats what every last one of you ridiculous environmentalist thinks and wants.  If you truly had a land ethic or even the vaguest concept of how ecology actually works you would understand but you never will because it’s more about hating us bumpkin agrarians than anything else.  I feel truly sorry for you.

  • Benedict

    I believe hunting wolves with guns or crossbows is dishonorable. Knives, axes, spears, that’s the way to do it. Otherwise there’s no risk or honor.

    • Mtman41

      watch this link before you spout off about the “honor” of hunting with spears.  Needless suffering for the animal…..super honorable

  • Mark

    I really have a problem with the whole liberal thing about “risk” or “honor” as a hunting/harvesting prerequisite. When you go to KFC to buy chicken, buy a pair of leather shoes at Sears or even a pound of carrots at the store, where is the honor or risk for your liberal mind then? Something has to die (yes, even carrots), to provide for you. The only difference is that you personally lack the act of doing the actual deed of harvesting the animal or plant. That, my friend,constitutes a coward; Having someone do, or paying someone else to do what you cannot do or are unwilling to do. Why is it that liberals and “armchair conservationists” know everything about nothing?

  • Cravenrun

    Rabbits breed like rabbits.  Wolves breed like wolves. 
    Do you live in elk or deer country?  If so, you are displacing some of these animals.  Enough people move in and you have a reason for the herds’ decimation.
    Do you think man is a better manager of our forest’s wildlife than nature itself.  man’s tampering always upsets the balance of things.
    When I was young I hunted wildlife.  It was very exciting.  In my twenties I grew up and saw the stupidity and ignorance in this cruelty.  I don’t make a stand against the hunting of elk and deer, but wolves are another matter.You want public support for hunting….then I suggest you back off from the wolves.  You are but a pawn of the livestock industry and probably never understood the game.  Keep the hunting ethic alive and healthy, support the NRA in most areas, but lay off the wolves.  You could bring the roof down on your heads.

  • Anonymous

    What makes wolves any different than anything else, say, a coyote, a fox, a gopher, or even a grasshopper when it comes to one being more ‘important’ than the other? How can someone pick and choose what is taboo to hunt and what is not? We live in a world of hypocrisy. Liberal, rainbow flag flying, anti-wolf-hunting Americans back Obama’s presidential run, yet it was he who signed the delisting of the gray wolves, allowing them to be legally hunted in the U.S.. Where is your Messiah now?
    As for hunting wolves, (or even hunting in general)… Pandora’s Box has been permanently opened. It’s just a matter of time before it too is going to be as accepted as just another forest critter listed in the state hunting regulations. Raccoon season?-check, squirrel season?-check, bear season?-check, wolf season?-check, etc. etc..
    American’s have the attention spans of Cocker Spaniels. The wolf hunting issue is a ‘hot topic’ of the day but, like everything else, people ‘aknowledge and move on’ to the next battle; whatever it may be. Hunting wolves and hunting in general has been going on since the beginning of human cilvilization. It will continue, condoned or not, long after you and I are dead and buried.
    My point is best proven by seeing the recent lack of conversational posts on this high profile pro-wolf hunting website compared to earlier in the year. Anti-wolf hunting is yesterdays news and cause.
    Soooo, what’s up with those 99%’ers? Herman Cain? Justin Beibers love-child, the new iPhone, Michelle Obama’s new dress?

    Attention spans of Cocker Spaniels.

    • Mollyaevans

      honestly, if you think that killing a grasshopper has the same effect on the environment as killing a large predator you are so wildly misinformed that it probably isnt worth my comment

      • Anonymous

        My comment was only to address one person giving “worth” to one creature over another, it was not pertaining to the environment or an animals affect on it. I personally do not see how a wolf ‘benefits’ the environment as much as just ‘fitting into it’ as other creatures do. As any living thing, too many in a given area will have a detrimental affect on it’s environment, whether it be a bird, fish, mammal or insect. True?

  • Me

    Fuck everyone who made this site.

    • Xdukethreatx

      Fuck you faggot.

    • Mtman41

      Watch wolves tear apart your family dog (or in your case CAT).  Have your kids walk thru woods where they hunt.  Doctor a calf that has had it’s hind quarters chewed up. Get out from underneath the pathetic rock of deception and fairytale nature you live under next time before you go telling peole to F themselves. 

      • Eddieanddawn1

        you need to quit talking shit, if you people have no respect for animals then i have no respect for you, what do you want the wolfs to do ur taking all there land and food and you people bitch about a cow getting eating well what do you think there going to eat snow and grass??? so fuck off to you

        • Mtman41

          Yes I’m taking there land, not the developers building ranchette for people who want to “get away from it all”.  Keep cussing at people who have a different point of view, it makes you seem so informed and mature.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kevin-Sewell/100000763108603 Kevin Sewell

        that is purely natural law…and as sad and regretful at losing a much loved family pet is, your choice to live in that domain brings responsibility  in respecting that environment and the law of the land! the endless persecution and grotesque discrimination of the wolf is a propaganda driven pile of bullshit!!…

        • Kate

          Kevin do you honestly think that the wolves will not start to walk right into towns if they become over populated? If you dont control the population it wont matter where you live, they will hunt for whatever they can eat.

    • Idahodave39

      are you a biologist?  have you seen what a wolf does to deer and elk?

  • Mtman41

    Well I think I’ve read enough.  I’m very frustrated with the comments on this page because the pro-wolf folks are simply too irrational and shrill to debate with.  I’m sorry but you all live in a theoretical fairytale world.  In my opinion everyone who does not live in rural MT or ID does not have an opinion with the same validity as those who do.  You can sight all the “studies” you want but the fact of the matter is I have seen the havoc the wolf has reaked upon the local ecosystem and on sustainable agriculture first hand.  Hunters cannot find game in places where it was abundant for years right up until the explosion of the wolf population.  Ranchers suffer debilitating herd losses and, contrary to popular belief, they are largely uncompensated.  Yes, predators do serve a useful purpose in ecology.  Yes, if left unhunted their numbers will eventually drop, but not until they have done devistating and possibly irreparable damage to game populations and agriculture.  At this point the wolf is in the lower 48 to stay.  Unless we go back to snaring and poisoning them I don’t think it would be possible to kill them all off.  They are resilient and intelligent and not particularly easy to hunt ethically.  Hunting them just makes plain sense.  Sportsman deserve the opportunity to keep their sport alive and keep game animals around.  Ranchers deserve the ability to defend their livelihood.  The wolves deserve to be treated as any other animal and not left to overpopulate until they starve or are driven by desperation to prey on pets or worse.  Sentimentality should not drive environmental policy. Those of you who oppose hunting all together need a reality check- until we figure out how to float and survive off air alone we are part of the planets ecology.  Food does not come from the grocery store, farms have a greater impact on the ecosystem than grazing does and like it or not you use natural resources like everyone else.  Lets all look for a realistic and sustainable way forward rather than simple reacting emotionally to anything that is an affront to our emotional sensibilities.

  • Stargaze400

    I am a year round hound hunter.  I have never had any problem with wolves.  They are a necessary predator.  It IS possible to live in harmony with the wolf.  Sheep and cattle ranchers have been using great pyreneese dogs with amazing success.  We need to try to live in harmony because destroying them will effect the whole ecosystem…..right down to frogs and trees as discovered in Yellowstone.   Not one documented human death by wolves in the lower 48.  Watch “The Lords of Nature.”
    Now…….I have to deal with the REAL PROBLEM……a mine field of snares!!! that is an instant death for my dogs.  We need to stop the witch hunt and become educated.
     
     

  • Paguayo70

    I can see killing a wolf cause it is attacking but to just go out and hunt a wolf is ridiculous…. Humans put them on the extinct list to begin with and we are bringing them back in numbers and now you want to kill them again… Just does not make since.. Just like the white man killed off the Buffalo for pure game… Sure your cattle get killed then hire people to guard them..  Can’t blame wolves for human stupidity… 

    • Idahodave39

      i think we should put a pack into central park

    • Idahodave39

      I have considered myself a fence-straddler for quite a while. I am never a fan of any animal being annihilated for whatever reason, whether it was the wolf’s demise 100 years ago or the elk’s demise today. I will be damned if my children have to fight to have the elk re-introduced to the Yellowstone eco-system because of THEIR demise.
      That being said, my Weatherby will be loaded and ready to fill a wolf tag in the very near future

    • Dhargrove

      Wolves, like predators in Africa, can be managed,sequestered, and allowed to live. Guard your livestock better. This ravaging of American  wolves  should be a crime. And this isn’t hunting for food, it’s killing for sport. Shame on those who kill them. 

      • Sweetfreedomgirl

        Your comment is contradictory. Predators of Africa are managed by HUNTING!  Wolves in the west should be managed the same way…HUNTING!! There is no other way to manage them. Hunting equals killing….sorry, but you can’t have managed wild game (including wolves, cougars, tigers, bears, deer, elk, etc.) without killing.

  • SexyHunt

    Too many city slickers think wolves are pretty and beautiful animals…I do too, but I can’t eat em!! I’m so over all hippies, no knowledge, non Montana/Idaho residents, who has abs. zero knowledge about how the wolves actually operates. I hate em (even tho I think they are pretty to look at and yes even with wolf hunts there will still be plenty of them out there) and would love to kill as many as I can. I going after them this weekend, can’t wait. Wolves, most of the time, doesn’t even kill to eat, they kill deer and elk just for the hell of it. BTW for those of you who doesn’t like the fact that we need to control the wolf population, try to read through reseach online for why we should control them, and not only swollow all the biased info from ProClaimed Wolf lovers in Orange County. I read em, and I understand why you got brain washed :)

  • Relativity98003

    I have considered myself a fence-straddler for quite a while. I am never a fan of any animal being annihilated for whatever reason, whether it was the wolf’s demise 100 years ago or the elk’s demise today. I will be damned if my children have to fight to have the elk re-introduced to the Yellowstone eco-system because of THEIR demise.
    That being said, my Weatherby will be loaded and ready to fill a wolf tag in the very near future.

  • MichelleWYO

    Although I live in NE Wyoming, I feel I have just as much right to weigh in as those from Idaho and Montana.  I’ve educated myself on these animals.  I see them for what they are, killing machines.  An adult wolf needs between 11 and 15 lbs of meat A DAY to MAINTAIN.  These wolves hunt in packs of 5 to 30….that’s an average of 400 lbs of meat A DAY for ONE PACK!!!  That means, these animals are killing and consuming at least 4 adult white tail, 3 adult mule deer, 2 adult elk or an adult moose EVERY DAY.  The bitches are having at least 2 litters of pups a year, with each litter averaging 5 pups.  If 2 females of each pack are having 10 pups a year, that means each pack is adding 20 pups per pack, per year.  Deer, elk and moose don’t produce at that rate, and we can’t expect them to remain a part of the ecosystem at the kill rate the wolves have.  Biologists say the wolves haven’t crossed the Bighorn’s yet….bullshit!  We manage a ranch near Devil’s Tower.  This past spring my husband and daughter saw a lone black wolf less than an eighth of a mile from my house.  How can I allow my 5 year old to play outside alone in the yard?  How can I trust that my brood mare band will successfully raise their foals?  When do the residents of these states count when we raise our voices?  When will the federal govt. stop letting the wolf huggers that live in the Eastern, populated states quit calling the shots for those of us who have wolves in their yards?  The only way we can facilitate change is by sending letters to our legislators, Goveroners, and the President recanting our tales, our losses and our fears.

  • Anonymous

    Time will tell whether the wolves will be so eagerly welcome and loved once the human fatality reports start occuring in the near future, especially the images of little kids and such that will get ripped apart by these wolf packs. They DO NOT fear humans in North Idaho. I have personally encountered these wolves in the hills. I know what I’m talking about.They are slowly depleting their natural prey species here. Deer and elk numbers are dropping steadily in North Idaho. 
    The same thing happened out in the land of “fruits and nuts” (So. California) with their mountain lions years ago. They outlawed lion hunting in CA. After the lion population boomed, humans were soon being pulled off of their bikes and joggers eaten along trails. The public outcry forced state officials to hunt them down and kill the lions and others in the area.
    Anyone who opposes wolf hunting should try to be rational about it and get all of the facts before going off in a rage on this comment site. Read my earlier comments and you may get some sort of understanding of the real-life situation we are running into out West here. This ain’t no petting zoo.

    Historical facts to address earlier concerns:
    1) The 4 million American bison were killed off to starve out the Plains Indian tribes, not by sport hunting, as mentioned in someone’s comment earlier.
    2) The total eradication again of Gray wolves in the U.S. is impossible today. Historically, the vast majority of wolves were poisoned with poisons such as strychnine which is not legal to possess nowadays, so fear not.

  • Anonymous

    Okay. Back to the real purpose of this website;

    Attention hunters;
    Wolf hunters and trappers are needed in the areas east of Coeur d’ Alene, Idaho to the MT border. Resident tags are $11.50 and non-resident tags are about $35 (no drawings). You can get up to two per year. These things can be huge (150+ pounds) and often will look like a deer or calf at a distance. Hunting in the snow is ideal for better color contrast and tracking. Long, long season. Your odds are fairly good of seeing or hearing them at dawn and dusk. A deep-sounding howl or two from a high point will get a response if they are in the area at the time. Keep in mind, they WILL come aggressively towards your “intruder” howl call so keep your eyes peeled for several approaching from different angles to locate your position. Small calibers such as a .223 or 22-250 are the best all-around way to go. Use a 3-9X scope since the ranges may vary. Electronic calls are now legal in Idaho for wolves. Try a dying fawn or coyote food-fight sound. It gets them pretty wound up. Packs number between 2 and 12 animals it seems. They prefer to travel on logging roads and ridges. They spend the days in the densely forested hollows. Don’t plan on seeing many ungulates in a “wolfie” area. If you manage to see a deer, elk or moose, you are in the wrong area.
    The wildlife experts estimate at least 1,200 wolves are in the region but most residents here would say that number is underestimated based on the quite noticable absence of elk, deer and moose in the region compared to just a few years ago. Plenty of grass, cover and water, just very few herbivores nowadays in the mountains east of here.

    For wolf supporters;
    Great, free tent camping sites and hiking trails anywhere east of Couer d’ Alene, Idaho to the MT border. Not alot of deer, moose or elk but nice views and a fairly good chance to meet a wild wolf or two. Let out a deep howl at dusk or dawn and fight your urge to move. I’ve heard that they will come in and lick your toes if you let them.

    I hope the above-mentioned suggestions are heplful. Please let me know your experiences. Good luck!

    • WillHuntForFood

      Nice! I’ll be trying my luck in SE Idaho and in various places in Wyoming this year. I am mainly in this fight so that my kids and their kids might have a chance to tag a deer or an elk in the future.

  • BirdWhispererOne

    I live in Southwest Montana and have a cabin on the Ruby River 45 airline miles from Yellowstone Nat’l Park.  The ranch manager below my place can’t let his two young sons be out in their pasture next to their house without adult supervision any longer – there were 5 wolves hanging out there last year & the boys are “bite size” to a wolf.  I’m not against having some wolves around, but am totally against having as many as have been allowed to be reintroduced, reproduce & migrate. More of a balance needs to be struck. I’ve noticed a considerable depletion in the whitetail & elk populations as both a deer hunter & elk hunter.  People who are extremists in protecting wolves ought to balance out a bit by considering the welfare of some other species:  do a Google search on Attack of the Druids and watch that video. Then ask yourself if you want fewer – or more – of similar drawn-out, agonizing deaths to occur because you are infatuated with the concept of wolves.  As a near-death survivor of being wounded in combat I can tell you firsthand that the victim in that video is going through unimaginable pain before it dies because it is being eaten alive!  While being at the top of the food chain does not allow us to eliminate the brutality of nature is sure can enable us to lessen it!                     

    • Bigskyfishing

      Would love the oppertunity to fill my 2011 wolf tag for that rancher. I also live in southwest Montana. The wolf I take this year might let me get an elk in the future.

  • Ronhazard

    Reintroduction? That wolf never existed in the lower 48. It has size, habits and tool-set unheard of in original timber wolf populations. 

  • Anonymous

    For reference folks, here are a few images of how big these wolves can be. Keep in mind that the guys holding them weigh over 200 lbs.
     

  • Reality check

    Let’s persecute sharks too because they have the audacity to swim in our oceans ( oh wait we do)! Remind your kids that when hiking in the wolve’s territory that our government set aside those woods for the wolves too. I’m not against hunting but keep in mind that it’s a privilege and not a right. Predator hunting serves no purpose but to satiate the ego of some toothless god- fearing lunatic. Also keep in mind when bitching about the low elk/ deer populations that hunters almost always take the largest most genetically viable bucks. Enjoy your 10 point rack in your den of death! Dont bullshit me and tell me that eating venison is your livelihood. I thought your fictitious god gave us the dominion to domesticate our food animals. Wolves are vermin that need to be eradicated? Not hardly. Hopefully evolution will breed the stupids like you out of the human genepool!

    • Fool4luff

      Den of death?  Ha! You and your ilk crack me up.  In one missive you screech about grossly overpopulated deer herds and in the next you reference “low elk/deer populations.”  You can’t have it both ways. And when you reference “to satiate the ego of some toothless god- fearing lunatic” you let people know you can only support your argument via an acrimonious rant directed at people who live a different lifestyle than you and enjoy different activities.  Might I suggest gardening as a hobby.  Then you can write into those sites and complain about the killing of weeds.

    • KillWolvesSaveElk

      We don’t live near fucking sharks you moron.  We don’t deal with them, and i’m not on anti-shark hunting sites telling them not to kill them.  Kill em all.   The wolves of the ocean.

  • KC

    Perhaps all the cattle ranchers crying boohoo over wolf predation should consider growing corn instead. Hmmm? Any takers? Oh wait, then the grossly overpopulated deer herd would eat it all and become the next threat. I know that trophy hunters ( not legit sustenance hunters) use their political lobbying weight in such affairs as well. Sham organizations that preach conservation minded hunting ethos like Safari Club International have a lot of say in the wolves being delisted in the name of your “sport”. These same chest beating, canned hunt endorsing cowards would also like tigers and snow leopards to be legal to “hunt” as well if they could have it their way. Sadly money like theirs has heavy weight on Capitol Hill. The bottom line of the matter is that we took the wolves land in the first place. They have as much right to the land as we do. Poor deer harvests are not the wolves fault. If the greedy trophy hunters would only leave some strong breeding males once in a while, I think then the numbers might change a bit as well. In lean deer/elk years the wolf population drops as well. It all works itself out accordingly and numbers of both predator and prey will rebound again. Then drop. Rebound, and so on. It’s a natural balance that humans have disrupted. By the way you really must enjoy your wolf rug. Did you shoot the poor wolf in the gut as some “hunter” on another web page advocates?

    • Boz

      when was the last time you wrote a $600 check to help preserve wildlife popuations (as countless hunters do every year when purchasing licenses and tags)??

    • Rytonman

      You people might change your views if you lived in a bad wolf area. If your kids couldn’t play outside during the day because a wolf might come attack and eat your little boy or girl. Or if you love nature and taking walks in the woods. Why don’t you come take a stroll through the woods at night in a area that has wolves. All I can say is I cant wait to go kill a wolf (JUST FOR THE FUN OF IT. YES THE FUN OF IT. I AM NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING BUT PUT A BULLET IN IT.) If I get the opportunity ill unload my AR’s 30 round magazine on the whole pack. It’s gonna be a blast. I get to shoot 2 before the end of the year and 2 more at the beginning. I’m gonna do that as long as the state allows it. Let’s put them back on the endangered species list.

    • KillWolvesSaveElk

      You are a fucking idiot.  If we raised corn then started killing black birds for eating our corn you would be bitching about that.  First off,  i’ll kill a wolf just for you saying that.  Secondly,  our ideas and bills we push don’t matter obviously otherwise we wouldn’t be talking about it, because we have this idiot for president,  a dumb ass governor and senators in montana who throw our proposals out the window as fast as they can get them.  They are all up for election this year so we will get things straightened out once we have conservatives in office.  Our ecosystem doesn’t balance itself out either.  Our wintering range north of yellowstone had 6,000 head of elk last year,  3,000 this year.  You do the math you genius, one more year and it’s gone.  I’ll shoot some in the guts for you too, and maybe tag the 15th one i shoot.

  • BobinWa

    wow…

  • BobinWa

    Let’s see if I can understand…
    there’s the enviro-eco-conservation
    pro-wolf side that don’t live near any of these areas and who believe
    that hundreds of wolves deserve to be back in our forests and man
    doesn’t factor in.  That nature should be left alone to well…”be
    natural”.
    Then there are the hunters and ranchers and those bad
    people that live in or near these forests and raise organic free range
    beef so I can have a decent steak and raise sheep for a nice wool shirt
    who are being made out to be bad…? 
    First of all…I want to say
    to all those hardworking bad people…I appreciate what you do and thank
    you.  Every rancher or cattle person I have met are some of the most
    “real” and down to earth un-materialistic people I have known.  They are
    self reliant because they have to be and solve problems in ways that
    work, because they have to. They are the protectors of the animals and
    there families they are raising. They are not land grabbers or
    free-loaders, and not running big corporate steroid pumping farms, but
    most are good people that just extremely work hard at providing food for
    our nation because we want to buy it. 
    Most of the hunters I know
    are not the crazy bloodsport out of control hunters they are made out to
    be, but people that value life and appreciate the animal’s life they
    are taking that feeds their family.  They buy licenses and sporting
    equipment that help pay for managing the resource they use.  They
    wouldn’t dump their litter on the land they hunt or contribute knowingly
    to any negative impact on the ecosystem.
    All these attacks on these
    good people are not something they deserve.  Whether you are pro-wolf or
    anti wolf, these people along with the farmers are the heart of our
    nation.  The view that the forest is a peaceful Disney movie and
    everything is perfectly balanced is not a view that comes from anyone
    who really knows.  The wilderness is more likely in a state of evolving
    flux with something constantly preying on or taking the place of
    something else. Heck even the native Americans hunted animals and used
    everything they killed.  They wore bear and wolf claws as jewelery and
    used the furs to keep warm.  They respected animals but killed to eat
    and defend themselves. Yes humans have been and are part of the wild
    earth landscape.
    Wolves were displaced (yes killed) from most of the
    lower 48 for a reason, because they competed with another predator (us)
    and hunted us.  We must have really had a problem with them for all the
    states to put a bounty on them and eradicate as we did.  I am afraid we
    are destined to repeat the past.  The wolves will be a beautiful
    thing…until they become too much of a problem and start killing things
    that we value.  Then my own prediction is wolves start preying on more
    livestock or heaven forbid a few people from the edge of the suburbs and
    our society perception changes.
    I am not anti pristine wilderness or
    against preserving the wildness.  Wolves are not extinct, they have
    their place in remote unpopulated areas…just not running unchecked on
    the edge of our civilized areas.  We don’t need them forced down our
    throat. The folks that are pro wolf, while I can understand you love the
    beauty and the idealism of wolves…I don’t believe in people or
    livestock dying for your ideals in a place you don’t live.  And frankly,
    I think preaching to people that live a respectable life in these
    remote areas about how they don’t deserve to live there is pathetic. 
    Next time you go to your local costco, look at the label on that neat
    saran wrapped package of organic lean Montana Bison burger and think how
    hypocritical it is to buy it when you’ve been telling these folks they
    are so evil.
    Here’s an idea…how about the ranchers cut you off from
    another good steak and that glass of wine, any leather products, wool,
    or anything else raised or grown until you say thanks.
    Extreme radical thinking is tolerated until…well until it’s not

    flame if you want

  • KC

    Nature is brutal! That’s just the way it is. It’s not our responsibility or obligation to “lessen” it as someone blindly posted below. It’s savage reality that canids, wild or feral, eat their prey while it’s still alive. It’s a strategy that’s worked for wild dogs since time immemorial. That’s why they are apex predators like big cats, sharks, orcas, crocodiles and birds of prey. The fact that man has gained the ability to produce weapons doesn’t give us the right to shamelessly kill other creatures because we don’t always get our way. We are animals too! It’s frustrating also to see ranchers complain about cattle losses. Cry to the federal government to subsidize fences for your pastures. Feral dogs ( not wolves), Tuberculosis, inclement weather, and unnatural growth hormones account for more loss than any wolf pack. These are facts that I can cite references if you like.

  • Copperhounds

    Some people seem to believe that Nature is a thinking entity that is all knowing.
    It is not, nature is simply the way it has been for Millions of years, brutal and cruel.
    We as people can make changes, and we can improve on the way it has been. We can regulate and adjust some areas of nature and Wildlife, and we should do so. But we should not destroy the Deer and Elk population to return something to the way it was, especially to a species like the Gray Wolf.

    Copper

  • Silent_killer_the_carnage

    we should make hunting humans legal now that would be a fare sport but some dont have the balls for a challenge like the so they have to go after animals and i dont care cuz they taste good but wolves that would be like hunting down the family pet its like hay lets have some cat today….no so if just for sport kill a human instead of a wolf that should be a better  challenge anyway 

    • Jcoop

      If there was a hunting for humans i gurantee you that you would be sitting in your sky scraper hiding. No way in hell you would even touch a gun. So you shouldn’t be hoping for that because pretty sure someone like you wouldn’t last too long.

  • Jim

    The family pet? You are seemingly retarded to think of wolves in the same vein as a family pet. Unless your family pets are grizzly bears, bengal tigers, african lions, etc. Wolves are vicious, merciless killers that were eradicated for a damn good reason and i for one can’t wait til we kill them all so that we can safely take our families camping again.

    • Dexter

      “vicious, merciless killers” … Just like all of you. Bravo!

      • Jcoop

        You really have no idea what hunting really is do you? Hunters are very respectful for nature. WE DON’T KILL EVERYTHING WE SEE. I hunt mountain lions all the time and I have seen MANY but I have never killed one. Hunters try to get the biggest trophy out there that they can. (Except wolves thats shoot on sight cause they are NO GOOD). I bet the average hunter passes up or lets go couple deer or elk before the one they find the one they want to kill. If you don’t like Hunting why are you on a Hunting Website?

  • Emily

    if you like this sport, or this page even, your going to hell. hinting wolves is so wrong!

    • Rytonman

      Guess I’m going to hell over and over and over and over and over.

    • Jcoop

      Ha are you claiming to be GOD? Telling us we are going to hell? Pretty sure telling people they are going to hell is alot worse than hunting wolves WHICH IS LEGAL. So get off of here and grow up.

    • Mofunk306

      well Emily…. what if I LOVE this page and even more the sport???? whats worse than hell???where can i go from there?? take a first left off the highway to hell, and go straight past satan’s den, then hook a right at the end of the street???
       i’m already there baby!!!!! meet u here soon

  • Emily

    *hunting*

    • Wantabe Wolf Killer

      Only GOD will be the judge of who will go to hell,  thankfully it won’t be a complete moron like yourself!
       If you don’t like this site…..go to one where you can hug a tree! Granola head!

  • Bill

    i’ll bet you wouldn’t hunt your own dogs. not much difference. your hatred will only hurt you in the end. sorry to say.

    • Jcbtick

      False buddy. Wolves and dogs are totally different. You’re right though i wouldn’t hunt my dogs. They hunt lions and bobcats for me I love them. Your ignorance will hurt you some day. To come on here and attack and insult peoples life style? Seriously do you have anything better to do. We’re not telling you how to live your life so you should do the same. Grow up.

  • sparta00

    living in Idaho i have noticed hunting deer and elk has been very difficult in the past 10 years due to an overwhelming amount of predators in the area. i was bow hunting one evening for elk while i was cow calling i had a pack of wolves descend on me that gladly walked me back to my truck. if i would have been caring a pistol at the time which i now do it would have been a better sorry. i have also talked to ranchers in the area that have told me that they have stumbled upon wolf kills 2 days old that were not eaten on just slaughtered for the sport. people need to understand that allot of wolves in an area is not a good thing and that has to be some management to it all. if you have a wolf problem in your area and know where they den up chat me up i would be glad to come an send some lead there way.

  • Mark Trevor

    Hunting in general is kind of pathetic in this day and age – since it’s totally unnecessary. But hunting an animal so you can make a rug is about the lamest thing I’ve ever heard. Do you guys eat the wolves? I doubt it, you just like to shoot guns and kill stuff. Why don’t you do something useful and join the army so you can kill Taliban instead. I guess you’re too chicken shit to shoot at something that can shoot back.

    • Jcbtick

      Why would we eat a wolf? Honestly if you don’t like wolf hunting why are you on here? You don’t see us complaining about you that you don’t like hunting. We all are different you get your fun from other things and we understand that. So if you can’t just accept it then get out of here. Wolves need to be controlled buddy. You probably don’t even live near an area that they are present. Before you start opening your mouth learn the facts k. Do all of us a favor and get the hell out of here. We are not forcing you to hunt and calling you too chicken shit to hunt so you shouldn’t be forcing your opinion on us. I myself will hunt wolves rest of my life and there is nothing you can do about it.

    • Rhardy122

      I suppose your to chicken shit to go shoot Taliban yourself. You’re leaving that up to someone else too so you can sit here and run your uninformed jibbs!!
      Why don’t you tell that to the cattle and sheep ranchers that feed your sorry face!!!You obviously don’t know what the word “MANAGEMENT” means either!!

  • Kayceekinz

    thats so mean to do what you d to the poor wolves…why does their life,have any less value than yours?

    • Jcoop

      Whats worse? Hunting wild wolves and protecting livestock, Family pets and when you do kill them they may not even know cause guns do kill instantly. Or raising cows in a shit hole feeding them steroids just so they can be slaughtered and suffering it’s whole life just so you can get fed.? Why do cows lives have any less value than yours? Really?

    • Rhardy122

      Oh No….another bleeding heart LIBERAL!!!!!!!
      Why don’t all the folks not in favor of wolf hunting come to my house for dinner. I’m serving up elk and deer steaks that I didn’t get cuz the populations have been desimated so bad. You’re going to leave awful hungry!!!!!
      I live in California and we’ve already had a confirmed visit from wolf OR7 since thier reintroduction!
      Wish I had the chance to get away and get a wolf of my own.
      Go get em guy’s……good luck to all the wolf hunters out there.

      • Kayceekinz

        well ur not happy

  • Jcoop

    Well time to talk about Hunting now. Island park zone is now closed. Anyone know of a pack in Southern Idaho thats pretty close? Anyone havin much luck?

  • Anonymous

    I agree. Let’s talk about hunting wolves, since we are on a website dedicated to hunting wolves. Jcoop, the Southern ID zones are looking to be slow hunting right now. My advice; go North. No limits, long seasons. The area around Elk City is still strong and the Lolo is so underhunted that the state is hiring professionals and helicopters to reduce the packs since the elk herd collapsed in that region over the past few years from verified wolf predation. As mentioned earlier, the top spot is east of CdA, Idaho. Come and get ‘em! I see alot more wolves than coyotes nowadays. I heard that the 2012 Idaho Sportsmen’s tag package includes a wolf tag to get the pack numbers down. The good thing is that the snowpack is gone up in the Panhandle so the elk and deer are able to avoid the wolves easier. Hopefully the pack numbers will level off soon while we still have some moose, elk and deer left. Nothin’ worse than seeing elk and deer laying on the trail with their hamstrings ripped out by wolves and left to rot with only their fetuses and livers pulled out. I should download that image to give the folks against wolf hunting a dose of reality. Anyone who believes that these “poor wolves” only kill for food or prey only on the weak or sick elk is a fool. Folks need to quit believing as gospel everything they hear about wolf ecology from some pea-brained armchair environmentalist living in his mother’s basement in Chicago. Live in Idaho, Montana or Wyoming first, and then chime in on a website called huntwolves.com.

  • Richardnadj7

    This is BS, stop being idiots, and stop harming poor innocent animals! Its a disgrace

    • Mofunk306

      how bout NO…. your BS!!!! just stfu and get off here, go cry to a tree hugger that has never left a city….. kinda like yourself!!!!

  • Guest334

    This website is a disgrace. Do you guys seriously have nothing else to do but kill poor innocent animals? is that how low you are? I understand they do effect animal population such as the elk and deer population but you dont have a right to make the animals suffer then just throw away the meat? and then you make yourself a carpet? thats disgracful. How would you like it if you were shot at just for your skin, or for your hair? I bet you wouldnt like it either? Would you like if you were killed because their was too much of you? I understand wolves can be very dangerous and they should be slowed down but in a more mannerly way, for instantance perhaps opening a a wolf zoo, or an area just for wolves surrouned. They can be alter solutions to this but people always look at the most disguisting and harsh way, which is also the cheapest way. Its a sad thing to see what the world has come to.

    • Jcoop

      Do you seriously have nothing else to do but come on here and be so ignorant. Is that how low you are? This is a WOLF HUNTING SITE. If you don’t like it don’t get on it. It’s that simple.

    • Rhardy122

      Spoken like a true DEMOCRAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!…..Quit going thru life with blinders on and TRY to look at the BIG picture!!!!!!!

    • strychnine em

      Dang!!! Should have read more before I replied to a troll.  I hate doing that!!  Touche troll, touche, I bit.

    • KillWolvesSaveElk

      The wolves don’t know any different because they’re dead you dumb ass.  Do you think they know they are being used for a rug or just thrown away?  Probably not.  They’re just rotting into the earth. There’s no such thing as harvesting a wolf.  What the hell you going to eat on it.  Just skin it and throw the meat away.  As state regulations say,  you don’t have to keep the meat, just the hide.   As for the wolf zoo, that’s a great idea.  We can dig a giant pit, throw all of the wolves in it, pups and all, and either fill it in and bury them alive or light it on fire.  Then we can roast elk steak over their burning carcasses.  Sounds good.  Elk steak is a little scarce this year though due to the wolves.  Or we can trap every last one of them, and open up a zoo in washington d.c. or new york. 

  • Anonymous

    Irving Creek in the North end of medicine lodge area(east idaho). called in a pack of 4. need to kill em all! they are destroying out elk,deer and moose herds! thank goodness the antelope can run!!

  • Evh1971

    HELP
    I am driving 8 to 10 hours to shoot and kill at least two of these K9s from the Clinton administration. I would like some help locating known areas and forest service roads to drive my truck or four wheeler and or snow shoe in and hunt wolf. My first thought on location was Elk city however I have no clue what area to go in Elk City. I will be with my cousin so we hope to get 4 to take. Willing to drive from Pocatello to Headquarters,Pierce, Orofino, Selway, to Lolo. I will be looking for reponce on this forum. Thanks to the real people who understand common sence and definition of freedom.
    ERIC

    FYI I am not a hunter but after having a small pack come 40 feet from our camp last Aug in the deadwood area on Bear valley road I look forward to dropping two of these four legged monsters. Warning to the tree huggers if your out naked in the woods and you dont have a BIG gun and one of your fuzzy friends come along you will be bottom of the food chain and you will be eaten. I will make a prediction that in the next 1 to 3 years a human will be attacked and or die from a wolf attack, and or wolf pack attack. Ms. ANDERSON would probally agree, would love to shake her hand.

    • Anonymous

      Hopefully, both you and your cousin are killed by other hunters thinking you’re wild animals. Only good hunter is a dead one.

  • Anonymous

    Where r u headed EVH

    • Evh1971

      north elk city orofino  riggins mccall maybe the warm lake area, I only have 3 days but I am motivated, can you help.

      • Anonymous

        I hope you are shot dead by another hunter you worthless pos. The only good hunter is a dead one.

  • Anonymous

    Lobowatch.com. watch the 60min video, u WILL b glad u did!

  • Jcoop

    Anyone have any tips on trapping them? Have to have a trappers license is that right?

    • Anonymous

      Jcoop,
      You need an Idaho trapping course completed and an ID trapping license for wolves. You can get up to 5 in select regions. Snare traps work okay but are a hit and miss since you have to put them on established wolf trails to do any good. Unfortunately, wolves cover alot of ground and may be a week or two before making their territory “rounds” on the exact same path. Consider getting leg-hold traps with a beef liver, or coyote scent as bait hanging just above it. The downside of leg-hold traps in winter is that they tend to freeze up.  Whichever method you choose, check the traps often.
      Good luck!

  • Guest334

    How am I ignornat? you should be ashamed of yourselfs for killing innocent animals. Killing wolves is wrong, its that simple!

    • WillHuntForFood

      Then somebody should have left the innocent Canadian Gray Wolf where it belongs – in Canada! It is an unwelcome guest here.

  • Guest334

    Hunting wolves will destory and harm the ecosystem for sure, just wait and see, and soon there could be nothing to hunt! Killing wolves is wrong, its that simple

    • http://wwww.huntwolves.com Hunt Wolves

      Would you care to elaborate how the absence of wolves in the north western United States destroyed the ecosystem prior to their re-introduction in 1995?  As I recall, and anyone who actually understands this issue will agree, is the “ecosystem” of the North West was doing quite well prior to wolves.

    • Rhardy122

      What grapevine are you getting your facts from? You should do a little research before you go pipeing up about something somone told you. The fact of the matter is…..Hunters provide more money to the conservation of animals and habitat than any other source. The reintroduction of the wolf and lack of managing them from the start has taken that away from those who have the most to lose…..The animals they prey on!….not to mention the hunters who stood by and obeyed the laws (didn’t kill em) and watched them desimate the deer and elk in many western states that we hunt….and have kept the ecosystem in balance!!
      Furthermore, going back to the Teddy Roosevelt era (a true conversationalist and hunter) passed laws that allowed good management practices so deer and elk herds could and have been increasing ever since…..til some kneejerk brainfart reaction from some politician and animal rights activist (like yourself) took that away from us and the animals! You’ve probably never even taken a step into the woods and seen the amazing things most hunters have! If you havn’t then you better hurry cuz the wolfs are destroying that for all of us….including YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

    • Rhardy122

      Oh, and by the way….The statistics I’ve heard and seen are saying that the elk population In Yellowstone park is down 50-70% since the reintroduction of the wolves in 1995. That means the wolves have reduced the numbers by more than 1/2 where hunting is prohibited!!!!
      What hunters do you suppose are hurting that ecosystem?
      Did you also know that 1 of the wolf packs in northeastern Yellowstone has adapted its killing skills to specialize in primarily killing buffalo!!!

    • Jocarbeau

      Just a few of the wolves killed this year with the Idaho wolf tag. Wish I could show you a few hundred more pictures. It is just amazing how big they are. Deer, elk, and livestock killing machines. The big question you have to ask yourself is why? These massive wolves are not the native wolf that lived in our area 100 years ago. There was a reason these things where exterminated nationwide. They sure do look cuddly and cute. I wonder if our city dwelling tree hugger society that never has left a city really understands the impact of these killing machines. I wonder if a Tyrannosaurus rex was somewhere to be had that they would want to put them back in the wild. PS. It’s just a matter of time before one of our granola loving green peace hikers goes out on a hike and runs into a pack of these killers and becomes part of the food chain. If you are going into the Blues, Cascades, or up above Spokane hiking, game scouting, mushroom hunting, or something else you better start carrying a side arm. Can you even imagine being out by yourself and having 8 to 12 of these monsters surround you! Think about what kind of appetite a dozen of these must have and remember they are the only predator in our nation that kills for fun along with for food. The amount of animals they take are just a partial portion of what they need to eat. When elk are calving they will kill the calves just for fun after they have had all they can eat and leave the rest to rot. They’re also moving into a lot of Western Montana, Southern and Northern Idaho, Northern Utah, Eastern Wyoming, Eastern Montana, and have been seen as far east as Nebraska. The Fish and Wildlife Service has really outdone themselves this time! 

    • Jocarbeau

      Just a few of the wolves killed this year with the Idaho wolf tag. Wish I could show you a few hundred more pictures. It is just amazing how big they are. Deer, elk, and livestock killing machines. The big question you have to ask yourself is why? These massive wolves are not the native wolf that lived in our area 100 years ago. There was a reason these things where exterminated nationwide. They sure do look cuddly and cute. I wonder if our city dwelling tree hugger society that never has left a city really understands the impact of these killing machines. I wonder if a Tyrannosaurus rex was somewhere to be had that they would want to put them back in the wild. PS. It’s just a matter of time before one of our granola loving green peace hikers goes out on a hike and runs into a pack of these killers and becomes part of the food chain. If you are going into the Blues, Cascades, or up above Spokane hiking, game scouting, mushroom hunting, or something else you better start carrying a side arm. Can you even imagine being out by yourself and having 8 to 12 of these monsters surround you! Think about what kind of appetite a dozen of these must have and remember they are the only predator in our nation that kills for fun along with for food. The amount of animals they take are just a partial portion of what they need to eat. When elk are calving they will kill the calves just for fun after they have had all they can eat and leave the rest to rot. They’re also moving into a lot of Western Montana, Southern and Northern Idaho, Northern Utah, Eastern Wyoming, Eastern Montana, and have been seen as far east as Nebraska. The Fish and Wildlife Service has really outdone themselves this time! 

    • strychnine em

      Troll???  Idiot for sure if not a troll.  Don’t just buy into everything you read from wolf lovers, come out and see for yourself.  The ecosystem did fine for decades without wolves.

    • LoveToKillWolves

      You are an idiot, its that simple.
      Ive shot a gair amount of wolves in my life, living in alaska.

    • Mofunk306

      WOW…. for real???? did u really just type that???? omg we have a free for all in canada their so out of control…. just for this dumbass thing you said i’m going to now shoot 5 more!!!!! PERIOD.

    • KillWolvesSaveElk

      If we don’t start killing wolves there won’t be anything left to hunt.  The wolves are killing everything so there will be no more elk and deer.

  • Guest334

    I understannd that wolves cause many damage, dont get me wrong but I do wolves need to be slowed down but I feel this “sport” will get out of hand, and the wolves will be exincted and that would be a massive blow to the environment, and you guys dont think that the elk and deer population is also down due to hunters, its not all wolves, so dont always look at blaming wolves!

    • Fool4luff

      A wolf zoo?!? Really??? Hahahahahaha! Might I suggest it be a “petting zoo” and you could be the initial patron. OMG! When I first read that I thought someone was pulling my leg but no! There really are people walking among us so painfully misinformed that they would waste their time trying to offer up a “wolf zoo” as an alternative to hunting. Stay in the city Skippy and we’ll take it from here. A wolf zoo… Unfreaking believable!

    • Scott

      Elk, deer, moose, sheep and all of the other ungulates were brought back from the brink of extinction due to over-hunting by the early 1900s.  Conservationists (IE HUNTERS) worked hard to get these animals back to healthy populations and they were THRIVING up until the wolf reintroduction.  Do your homework.  It’s obvious that you know very little of game management.  If you don’t understand game management, then you shouldn’t try to have a conversation about it.  Epic FAIL on your part. 

    • strychnine em

      Extinct?  They were never even close to endangered, there are thousands of them in the Canadian, Alaskan and Russian wildernesses….where they belong.

      • Cravenrun

        Why is that?

    • KillWolvesSaveElk

      You need to go back to english class before getting on here.  Also the wolves were never extinct, they were exterminated in fifties in the u.s. supposedly, but as we know we didn’t kill them all.  They were exterminated for a reason here, the same reason we are piping up about it now.  We just trapped some gray wolves in canada, where they flourish, and you can kill them like you can rabbits here.  I don’t think thats extinct or endangered?  And as soon as they crossed the line into montana or idaho, they were considered endangered?  Where 100 miles north in canada they are varmits.  Doesn’t make sense does it?  Plus we never had canadian gray wolves, we had timber wolves which were much smaller and much less agressive then the canadian gray wolf.  We got bent on that deal.

      • Grnwdsdlry

        that is a fact we had timber wolves NOT canadian wolfs, but they introduced the canadian wolves becouse thats what the leaf eaters see in pictures and in movies, and thats who they were trying to satisfy in the first place

  • Fool4luff

    Is English your first language?

    • Rhardy122

      I about fell over at the thought of a “wolf zoo” too. The poor guy musta missed the common sense line when it was getting handed out!!!

  • Anonymous

    Go where the elk are! What’s left of em anyways!

  • Anonymous

    For those folks who find the wolves so innocent and cuddly, here are a few pics that are not so uncommon to see around wolf country nowadays.  Yes…. it’s that bad. Please put yourself in the position of someone who sees these things, or worse, first hand. Like it or not, controlling U.S. wolf expansion and numbers is the responsible thing to do. If you say that the pics show what wolves do naturally, my point is made.

    • Muskrat

      How did you add the pictures?

  • Anonymous

    I grew up in the city in a non-hunting family and fell hook, line and sinker for all the lies and distortions of the environmentalists. My eyes are now open to the insidious methods they use to further their agenda. I am glad that common sense is now being used to manage wolf populations, despite the hype and anti-hunting spewings of ignorant people like some of those whose postings I have read here. They spread hate but do nothing to actually promote the balanced well-being of native fauna. I now know that hunters pay more in time, effort and money to maintain the health of animals in North America than the vast majority of the haters out there who spend time writing vomit on blogs, but not a dime of their own money. Wolves are not worth any more than any other animal. They have been hyped by radicals. There is nothing romantic about them. They are predators – killers. Nothing more. Learn about wolves in Russia that have preyed on unarmed humans populations. You lovers out there need to stop the nasty, hateful remarks. Oh wait.. it’s Ok to suggest that there should be hunting seasons for humans who think differently than you. Actually…..it’s not!  Look inside yourself and wonder how you ever got to that point. Hunters have a right to pursue their interests and wolf populations are out of control. End of story.

    • McKenna Kozitzki

      Wolves shouldn’t be punished for the flaws of HUMAN of environmentalists. I can’t believe society today acts so goddamn entitled, strutting around thinking that they can control whatever population they please with any means they choose. If anything, I think someone should be controlling the human race as opposed to the human race having power. You, sir, are ignorant.

      • ewrty

        yes thank u someone is on the same page as me!

  • hunter17

    trapping these animals is inhumane. i agree that the population is getting out of hand and i understand what these animals are doing but they are not hunting for sport but for survival. I understand keeping the population down and undercontrol. but trapping is just wrong instead of a swift kill the animal lives and is in extreme pain and suffering for how many hours it takes for  hunter to come and kill it.

  • hunter17

    to back up my claim here are some photos 
     
     
     

  • Anonymous

    Hunter17, to be honest, I too agree that trapping and leaving any animal to suffer as inhumane…. HOWEVER, please provide another effective solution to controlling the rapidly expanding wolf population here in Idaho. The population here is currently over 1,200 animals and growing by about 20% per year. The females have two litters (of up to 9 pups) per year. Spot and stalk rifle hunting, although a fast kill, has been proven by the state wildlife agencies to be virtually ineffective on controlling that degree of  population growth. Total, as of today, only a few hundred have been taken since last year in Idaho by hunters. Do the math. That is why trapping is now allowed and actually encouraged.  It’s like trying to get rid of mice living ‘somewhere’ in your own home… shooting them with a BB gun would be possible, but highly ineffective. Traps are effective; i.e. mouse traps. Especially with elusive creatures that live in the thick forests of North Idaho. The only other means of EXTREMELY proven wolf control was poison, and I’m sure you would not want to see that as an option again in the U.S.. Traps are an unfortunate neccessary evil, like our politicians. Keep in mind that wolves are skillful, cunning, marauding predators that act as literal ‘street gangs’ of the forests. I have personally witnessed them as such. They kill for fun and injest only 10% of what animals they kill, if that. Large regions are virtually void of large ungulates in the pack territories. To see maimed animals literally in shock and wandering in the roads and highways to escape the wolf packs, or seeing a family dog literally ripped in half, or hearing about a local little girl rushing to her home’s back screen door with a pursuing wolf behind her while her mom watches in terror from the kitchen window gives a glimpse of reality that few could visualize. This is real. Many people nowadays lose track of seperating the romance and admiration of wolves portrayed on television or on the “Twilight” stories, but do not see the truth and devestation first hand of these powerful and dangerous pack predators. I honestly admire the wolves intelligence and strength, but I too recognize them for what they are; wolves.

  • Anonymous

    Hunter17, Wolves do kill for sport/fun. It is proven and well documented that animals, both wild and domestic do so, especially in a pack situation or mentality. In Dillon, Montana, in a single night, one wolf pack killed 120 sheep. None eaten, only bitten, mauled, shredded and then left to rot. Was that just for “survival”? The answer is NO. You can read the actual articles in the Missoulan newspaper.  As mentioned, rifle hunting alone is not enough to put the Genie back in the bottle when it comes to wolves. At this point we will work with what we have to control wolf numbers in N. Idaho. Be glad you don’t have them in your area or you would know what I mean.

  • Jjhamza

    Would someone shoot one for me!

    • WillHuntForFood

      No, I won’t. I will shoot 10 for you!

  • Muskrat

    I’ve bee looking,but so far no luck.These critters are the hardest to hunt animal I have run into so far. Tryed calling like coyotes, tracking them,glassing…… nothing has worked so far. I guide hunters in the fall and hunt from can see to can’t see,still nothing. Keeping my fingers crossed and not giveing up,but getting a little discouraged.

    • Anonymous

      What area are you hunting in? It would be safe to say that if you are seeing tracks or elk/deer carcasses (watch for crows and ravens circling), you are in the right spot already. Cut wolf tracks on logging roads and follow ‘em. Remember, these things are smart and spend 24/7, 365 up there and seem to hide in plain sight. Unlike bears, wolves being pack predators instinctively freeze to avoid detection. You can see them, but not see them. It can be a bit scary at times. 
      My advice, based on personal success is; get up to a high point above a undisturbed canyon and let out a few VERY DEEP TONED, LONG howls, like an old, lonely hound dog. It works 100% of the time for me and saves me from trompin’ down a hollow into “God Knows What” terrain, and then finding no wolves down there. If any wolves are down below, they WILL answer. Remember, howling like a coyote will NOT get an answer with wolves. The pitch is too high. The howl has to be a very deep tone and last about 7 – 10 seconds. Don’t get discouraged. There are alot of them out there. Good luck!

    • Stewcolt

      It depends on where your hunting…..where I’m at the wolves have been hunted hard.  There wising up.  My advice is to just keep hitting it hard, thats what I’m doing.

      • Muskrat

        Thanks for the advice Stewcolt. I’m in the Salmon,Idaho area,plenty of Wolves here,but hard to find.Not going to give up untill I have at least one of each color! Good luck to you!

  • Mofunk306

    reading to all these “anti- hunter” comments below, 1 i still am left scratching my head as to WHY you are even on a hunting website that have never left a city, wondering why people are so innocently dying in ur precious cities, and all you have really have to cry about is hunters. REALLY???? …. i love this, it makes me smile ear to ear that i can hunt a wolf and piss even more “cry babies” off than if i was in a gang killing people!!! WOW….. so bring on all the harsh comments now…. it only makes me smile and laugh at you even more. 2 THUMBS UP,2 WOLVES DOWN!!!!! now cry….

    • Ihatemofunk306

      There are fines and penalties for hunting wolves, you redneck bastard. Wolves are coming back. Wolves are thriving. And jackasses like you will be left eating their shit. Got anything to say to that? i smile ear to ear as well when i learbn that you still have a livestock. we live in the 21st centure, you motherfucker. Get used to it.

    • WolfHater

      ya its ironic that these liberal hippie tree huggin faggots are speakin there mind when they have never even seen a wolf.  half of these retards live in the cities and have no idea how these wolves impact our NATIVE species and cattle. half of them can’t even back up the argument when they lay it out on the table.  ya man i agree with you!

      • Muskrat

        The problem comes from folks like Disney,and Jack London’s “White Fang”. They were good stories, but they were fiction. Wolves are not “Noble, or Majestic” they are preditors that kill to survive. It dosn’t make them evil either, it just makes them wolves. Without some control, they will eat themselves out of house and home. The anti’s think they are “saveing the world” they don’t understand that they are doing more harm than good. The Fish& Game didn’t spend all that money putting wolves in here just to see them wiped out again. They want them here, but they don’t want the other animals destoyed either. If these whiney do gooders would just get out of the way, we can have wolves as well as the other animals. It just takes management in the form of hunting and trapping.

    • Jwgreenw

      you go man! awsome!!!

  • HANSEN_KENNY

    stop killing them

    • Jwgreenw

      NO!

  • HANSEN_KENNY

    WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT 

    • Mofunk306

      well it’s quite simple really…. these are a menace to my livestock and have to be killed…. plus they make a GREAT blanket for my daughter, an awesome rug on the floor ( and when it gets dirty i’ll just go shoot another one) they make perfect wall mount decorations and absolutely raveshing  scarecrows…… any other genius questions you want to ask me????  :D

      • sonofagod

        Fuck you you immoral, unkempt, son of a bitch. Shit eating bastard. May you burn eternally in Hell. You want a wolf blanket for your daughter? Maybe your bare penis would be a better idea. Or do redneck bastards like you even know what that mean? I doubt it.

  • imnaha-dog

    We have wolves now.   Ranchers are throwing a fit.  I plan to capitalize on the wolves being here.   Ordered my   Wolf-Bugle…  just hope I can stay out of harms way.   the good ole boys here don’t take kindly to cattle rustlers… whether they be canine , or on horseback…  good ole Wallowa County  !!!

    • Mofunk306

      right on dog :) i have 1 on order as well…. i am trying for a black wolf now ;) happy huntin buddy

      • Ihatemofunk306

        fuck u astard

    • Grnwdsdlry

      near joseph oregon?

  • imnaha-dog

    My new wolf-bugle came yesterday afternoon.  that was fast…   Today, after a short stop at the Sports Corral in Joseph, I am taking my dogs out for a look-see.   Both the bugle and the little squeeling caller are very easy to use.   Had my dogs going NUTS  almost instantly.  I know exactly where to go look for Wallowa Counties 3wolf  / wolf-pack.  Anxious to see what Brutus and Sophie will do if we get onto the wolves.   I always chuckle when I see the stories about the huge size of wolves.  Brutus is a 3yr old English Mastiff who is in excellant condition and tips the scales at over 225lbs.  Sophie is not much smaller.    We are all very excited to go  look around…

    • Anonymous

      Let us know how you do with that wolf bugle. I don’t use ‘em but may if they produce. Once you locate a pack, let your dog bark a few times. They apha male wolf of the pack will come towards the dog barking to investigate, if the dog is inside pack territory. I have several large Rhodesian Ridgebacks that I keep in the truck when in the actual pack area. I have them just bark and then set in the truck cab where they stay until there is no more wolf. A word from the wise though… keep right with your dogs regardless of their size or weight. Wolves are instinctive, everyday killers of animals up to a 2,200 lb. angry bull buffalo or a bull moose. They also gang up on their victims so it’s usually an unfair fight. They kill mountain lions, other wolves and even bears within their home territory. No easy task. Up here in North Idaho, a small pack of wolves wiped out a half-dozen bear dogs in minutes while the hounds were on howl. Just keep an eye on your dogs is all I’m sayin’. The wolves that we deal with up here may not kill your dog(s) but definitely can ruin their, and your day. Good luck and keep us posted.

      • Muskrat

        Not only that,but if you are hunting wolves in Idaho,the rule book says you can’t use dogs. If they are in your truck,and not loose,hunting with you,you might be OK. I hate to see anyone get into trouble with Fish & Blame over this. They would also take your hard earned wolf away.

        • MarkinID

          Muskrat, good point. I personally make a point of it to leave my dogs at or in the truck while actually hunting in “wolfie” areas. Legally, dogs cannot be used to track, harass or ‘pursue’ wolves, so dogs barking from the truck would constitute a ‘passive’ approach that even F&G would not take on to legally argue. Like all dogs, my dogs live for truck rides in the hills. That’s all they are doin’. It just kinda’ happens to get a reaction from alpha male wolves in Idaho. From what I’ve witnessed, even if the regulations allowed it, it would be suicide to run dogs after a pack of wolves, in my opinion. Wolves are extremely underestimated.

  • Ihatemofunk306

    MoFunk 306- Fuck you and your daughter too.

  • Freeme

    Fuck you you immoral, unkempt, son of a bitch. Shit eating bastard. May you burn eternally in Hell. You want a wolf blanket for your daughter? Maybe your bare penis would be a better idea. Or do redneck bastards like you even know what that mean? I doubt it.

  • Ihatemofunk306

    i hate you

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Patricia-Randolph/100002251459151 Patricia Randolph

    This is pure ignorance.  Studies show that wolves scavenge winterkill and road kill ungulates 85% of their diet in winter.  Good Newfoundlands living with herds can protect them (perceived as another pack territory).  Wolves have much more integrity than humans.  A thousand wolves are 5% of their former numbers before humans moved in and turned everything into cars and concrete and fun murdering.  Your disrespect and ignorance of the importance of a natural number of wolves in the environment is just a showcase of your bloodlust and trophy killing idiocy.
    Fellow women – stop breeding these sick bastards.  Stop sleeping with them – their weenies are too small and their need for killing too big.  UGH.

    • Muskrat

      Whaaaat??????????  Lady where do you get your Ideas from??? Hard to believe anybody could be this stupid…………….

    • KillWolvesSaveElk

      Where are you getting this information?  From your Crazy twisted dreams?  You are a pyscho.  Just like MarkinID said,  there is NO roads besides abandoned logging roads where wolves live, there for there is no roadkill.  Wolves feed on elk and deer year round, regardless if it’s winter or summer, and its not roadkill.  That shows how much you know,  driving the roads in YNP thinking, “I wonder if wolves feed on road kill in the Park”?  Then you just assume they do, even though the average speed limit in winter and summer time in YNP is about 15-25 mph due to heavy traffic, which means theres no margin for animals to get killed in the road.  Maybe  a chipmunk now and again.  Patricia you also probably haven’t been laid before because you probably live in a tree house with hairy armpits and a man won’t get near you.  Do your research before you start making yourself look like an asshole

  • Sweetfreedomgirl

    To the anti-hunters that seem drawn to this site, please remember this….we live in America. The greatest thing about living in America is our freedom and the rights we have as citizens. We have the right to hunt. Hunters are not doing something illegal…it is a legal activity. As Americans, we also have the right to our own opinions. If you don’t like hunting, that’s fine. That is your choice and I respect that. However, I expect the same respect in return. You have the freedom to express your opinion, but there is no reason to be rude and disrespectful towards those whose opinions differ. I choose to hunt; you don’t. That’s fine! But please don’t try to force your values and opinions on those who don’t share them. We live in America for a reason…if you don’t like it, maybe you should live elsewhere.

    • Mofunk306

      that’s right Pat…. pack it up and move, NOTHING is gonna change cause YOU of AAALLLLLLL people in this world, say “stop”. So just shush your lips ( or fingers), and try to produce some of them!!!!!

    • WildLifeAdvocate

      Dear Sweetfreedomgirl, before you start bashing anti hunters for being rude, you should check out some of the posts from your hunting peers for example Tdscoressix above.  I agree there is no reason for rudeness and disrespect but let’s make sure we are fair about it and call everyone out, not just those you disagree with.  For the record I have no problem with hunters who kill for food however I find those who feel the need to torture and kill another living thing simply for the sport of it or to boost ones ego and bragging rights are utterly despicable. And to simply kill the wolves for killing elk so the hunters have more to harvest is fundamentally flawed. I sympathize with the ranchers, I really do but the trophy hunters need to find another way to boost their manhood or whatever it is they are trying to boost or prove.

      • Jwgreenw

        mr wildlife advocate, i bet you didnt know that wolves kill for sport too! if you dont believe it, well then you dont know the nature of dogs because dogs will kill for sport ive seen it plenty of times. and i seen deer and elk and cow that were killed and left with little or no actuall utilization of that animal by wolves. also im a ranch and i know ranchers, non of them are trophy hunters its those people for the city who come out west for the trophy hunt of a life time, your argument is flawed, the people who want the wolf hunted are not trophy hunters, they are the ranchers and meat hunter that want them gone. those people whos lives would be easier with the wolf out of the way. those people who dont have anything to boost or prove. im not being rude…i simply tell the truth!

      • Sweetfreedomgirl

        There is no excuse for rudeness, yes, and that does go for both sides of the debate. But you missed the main gist of my post…this is America and I have my right to my opinions, just as you and the others here have the right to theirs. Just because my beliefs are not the same as yours does not make it wrong. I am proud to say I am a “trophy hunter.” However, your assumption that I am trying to “boost my manhood” or that I have something to prove couldn’t be further from the truth. First, I am a woman. Second, I “trophy hunt” (meaning that I do not shoot the first animal that walks across my path, but wait until “the right one” crosses my path) because it increases the challenge and sense of satisfaction of the hunt. I could easily shoot the first animal, usually a young, much less wary and therefore an easier target, but I prefer to let these animals live another day and hopefully live to be an older, seasoned, and more challenging quarry. It also makes the experience of the hunt (I said hunt, not the kill, because for most hunters, it is the full experience that we value,  NOT the kill) more rewarding. I would rather hunt a full season and not kill anything but have lots of experiences than go out on the first day and fill my tag. 

        So to you and all of the others on here who make unfounded assumptions about what motivates hunter, open your minds. Maybe some hunters fit your narrow stereotypes, but the majority of us do not.

        • Muskrat

          Very well said sweetfreedomgirl! I am a meat hunter more than a trophy hunter. It puts food on my table that I know is not pumped full of chemicals. I hunt and trap for the freedom and enjoyment of it. I check traps daily and try to keep any suffering to a minimum. Hunting or trapping, the thrill is not in the kill, but in the challange of it and the enjoyment the great outdoors offers. Some folks like golf for the same reasons….I’m not one of them, but I don’t try to stop it.

      • Wolf Warrior

        Have they heard of viagra?

      • Muskrat

        Wildlife advocate,If the anti’s come to a pro-hunting website and start mean mouthing hunters, what the hell do you exspect? Stick to something you understand and leave us alone. We hunt for many reasons “boosting our manhood” is not one of them. If you don’t hunt, you will never understand us, don’t pretend to.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000096946951 Steven Arnold

        I find it completely absurd for anyone who judges others for taking a life ever. Do you kill life? Do you kill spiders in your’ house, or are you only compassionate towards cute animals? Are you aware of the fact that everytime you swallow, you sentence millions of organisms that inhabit your’ mouth to be burned alive by the hydrochloric acid that resides in your’ belly? You should not be biased based on size or cuteness of living creatures! I am an Idaho native, who has hunted and fished my whole life. I am prowolf, but I would prefer a wolf that more closely resembles the original Idaho wolf. The wolf they introduced is from close to the arctic circle and will disrupt the ecosystem in my home state, and all to make a group of people who will never step foot anywhere in the mountain west. I’m also a lifelong democrat. Denying the science that goes along with the wolf debate, is no better than people denying the science that shows global warming. http://rliv.com/pic/Smithsonian%20Study.pdf

      • Brian

        I agree with sweetfreedomgirl! Go elsewhere. Someplace your interested in being. If your not a hunter, stay away from hunting related things & hunting sites. If your a biker, go to biker bars & biker rallies! If your religious, go to church related funtions. If your gay, go to a gay club do gay things! I respect your rights to do what is legal & won’t go protest in your place of interest. Please stay out of ours. You obviously don’t have wolves in your backyard killing your cattle & domestic animals. If you have a dog, look at it and think about what you would want to do to wolves that came into your yard and tore that dog apart in front of you and your children!!!!!

    • Wolf Warrior

      I live in America too and I believe that wildlife should be protected from psychopathic killers like you and if you don’t like it YOU CAN LEAVE! The only way you are getting a chance at wolves is that the NRA and other gangsters bribed the government to do it. I don’t view bribery as legal therefore wolf hunting is as crooked as the nose on you face!

      • Bulldog

        Wolf Warrior, Are you a vegetarian? If not then thank a rancher who raises beef to feed you when you go to the drive through Mc Donalds. And the rancher that raises that beef and counts on that beef to feed and clothe their families have a serious problem with the wolf. I too, do not want the wolf to be extinct, however when I see my livelihood lying dead in the field that has obviously been killed by a wolf, well, that has a serious effect on weather I can feed my family. I will eliminate any wolf, coyote, or anything else that jepordizes my families income. Just like I bet that anyone or anything that puts your income to risk would run into a fierce resistance from you.

      • Brian

        Wolf Warrior, you present yourself as a psychopath. You sound angry. Why? You have never killed a animal? I bet your anciestors did! If there were no hunters to keep wildlife balanced, animals would be dying painful deaths from disease, starvation and getting crippled & killed in car/animal collisions. Also, more people would be dying in these collisions.

  • MarkinID

    Like most anti-hunting liberals, Ms. Randolph has shown herself to be unaware of facts. For starters, in areas that are roadless, where most U.S. wolves prefer and thrive, roadkill is virtually zero (no roads = no roadkill Patricia). What do wolves eat then Patricia? Grass? You are the ignorant one here. Did you not know what habitat wolves live in? To lay out facts; wolves consume betwen 5 – 10 lbs. of meat per day, per wolf. Wolves are classified as predators by wildlife biologists, not scavengers. Coyotes are classified as scavengers and do so regularly. Wolves scavenge food once their prey species has been decimated by the pack’s presence. Read about what’s going on and being studied in Yellowstone right now regarding wolf/prey dynamics in the Pelican and Lamar Valley’s. Not good, by even by ignorant liberal standards.
    Ms. Randolph, do you have a background in Wildlife Biology, Wildlife Management, the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem or anything that gives you any credibility on the topic of wolves other than having a vicious opinion on something you know nothing about beyond your apartment walls? Keep in mind that the person you surely voted for and likely adore as President signed the bill allowing wolf hunting in the U.S.. Your liberal mind must be racing right now for a quick-witted remark.
    ATTN. ANTI-HUNTERS! Consider this;
    MORE WOLVES = LESS DEER & ELK. 
    LESS DEER & ELK = LESS HUNTERS  
    LESS HUNTERS = LESS $$ FOR F & W DEPT. BUDGETS.  
    LESS $$ FOR F & W BUDGETS = UNENFORCED, UNREGULATED HUNTING.  UNREGULATED HUNTING = NO WOLVES, NO DEER, NO ELK, NO SQUIRRELS, NO POLAR BEARS, NO NOTHING.
    You anti-hunters contribute NOTHING to the cause of conservation but your unfounded, non-sensical, insulting rants. You should be thanking hunters for supporting wildlife conservation, not impuning them.

    • Mofunk306

      HERE HERE. *starts hitting desk in front of me, with open hand* WWWOOOO, PREACH IT MY BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Muskrat

      Well said. Hard to think they ever survived before cars were invented,if all they eat is road kill….WHAT AN IDIOT!!  the amazeing thing is she thinks she’s right.

    • Muskrat

      MarkinID, Well said, you have to wonder why these anti-everything nuts are looking on a website about hunting in the first place. They say they arn’t looking to pick a fight,I gotta call bullshit on that!!

    • Ciarrai

      What do you do for the cause of conservation? Nothing. Killing gray wolves is in your twisted world a means of conservation? All this gray wolf killing is unnecessary and based on the undue influence of ranchers and the gun lobby. Admit it. It is a detestable and evil enterprise which goes against nature and, surely, the wishes of the Creator. You hunters just get your rocks of by killing. Period. Don’t throw any stats or other unfounded crap at me. Maybe you’ll get your wish and that “varmint” hunting candidate will win election and then you can watch as all the safeguards for the environment are dismantled. You probably love to wave the flag, too, right? Phoney patriotism. Kill, kill, kill. Guns, guns, guns. It is bullshit.

      • Brian

        Ciarrai, What is your experience with wolves & guns? You sound like a anti-gunner!!

        • Unknown

          Wolves serve every purpose, idiot.

      • FuckTheLiberals

        “Don’t throw any STATS or other unfounded crap at me.”. That’s exactly the problem. Our reasons for hunting are based on facts. Real things that really happen. You vegetarian pussy beliefs are based on OPINON-you said it yourself up there. Stop watching fucking Disney and open your eyes. They are a nuisance!

    • dabu

      You, my friend, are an idiot.

      Are you saying that without enforcement hunters would become lawless killers and shoot everything? That is what you are saying in the last line of your childish equation. This besmirches the fine reputation most hunters have earned in this country. Try not to sound so much like a trigger-happy redneck (it gives us thoughtful rednecks a bad name). Hunters are responsible for much of the conservation in the west, where I live.

      Some folks like you tend to lump anyone who has a problem with killing wolves into the “anti-hunting liberals” classification. Well, you’re wrong. My freezer is full of wild salmon, meat from several elk, bighorn, and antelope. I shoot or catch the meat I eat, as men in my family have done for centuries. Some people in my family have shot wolves who inflicted real but limited damage to their herds. Hard to argue with it, except I think it was unnecessary since he could easily have gotten reimbursed and let F&G handle the wolves.

      My personal opinion is that predator hunting is fed by a bloodlust and folks that just enjoy killing (I know because this group includes friends and family). Be honest with yourselves. I’ve been in the middle of wolf packs. No person is endangered by wolves and sheep can be better protected by dogs.

      Killing wolves is about killing, not hunting.

    • Paul

      Ignorance is a bliss!

      In France just a few years ago, farmers complained about wolves, so they eliminated them! Within 2 years, not 20 or 200, just 2 years, the pest population became a much bigger problem and crated more losses for farmers than the occasional lamb or calf. Even deers create quite a mess in a crop, when they spend a night, 20, 30, 50 of them feeding and mostly lying in fields… So, AT THE FARMERS REQUESTs, they came here in Canada to capture some wolves and re-introduce them in France!!! Now, the canadian wolves are protected in France!

      You can say whatever you want to convince people that wolves NEED to be killed. I have 10 times more arguments to prove you that humans create more problems than wolves, does that mean we should start killing humans too? Oh, sorry, americans already do that every day! Wolves on the other hand don’t kill their own for profit or just for fun, don’t make guns to kill one another, don’t create atomic bombs that kill millions, don’t blow themselves up to kill others of their kind, don’t create pollution, don’t sell food that gives cancer, don’t eat to the point of beeing fat and sick, don’t rape their kids, don’t drive big trucks that create air pollution and used oils that leak in the soils and tires that become a nuisance, don’t destroy the planet with their bigotry! And they don’t lie! Do you want me to continue? I have pages of examples like these…

      Humans do a lot more damage to the environment and the world in general than wolves, who are part of nature, put there by your God to keep a balance in the animal population. They won’t even reproduce as well when their staple food supply falters, wich controls their own population.

      But the “human factor” screws up their plans and offers them new food, like cows and lambs wich are used to have dogs around, so they are not as afraid of wolves, and they don’t run as fast as deers or other wild “food”. So here again, you can’t blame a wolf for not thinking like a human!!! If it walks on 4 legs, it’s food!

      Even then, they usually go for the weak or sick ones, assuring that only the top of the breed lives on! Humans just kill the weak ones in their production of animals and casually throw them in the garbage or bury them. Search the web. You’ll find lots of pictures of dead farm animals just discarded and not reused in any way. Just wasted! Look at poultry (chicken, turkeys, etc) producers. If the birdies haven’t managed to get out of their egg shells within exactly so many days, they are considered as weak ones that won’t grow fast enough and are thrown in garbage cans where they finally make it out of their shells just to slowly die of hunger and cold. They could at least throw them to the wolves or the foxes, then they would leave the good ones alone and their death would be MUCH faster! Yes, wolves do take pleasure in killing as it means they will eat, exactly as all hunters, humans included, do. But they normally do it quick and clean. And they don’t kill to exterminate, just to eat!

      I used to farm. Took care of my father’s beef farm then I got myself a smaller farm where I bred birds of all sorts (from quails to wild turkeys, including pigeons, pheasants and peacocks). My biggest problem were racoons and rats who always managed to make their way through my fences, infiltrated my coop and killed chickens, ducks and whatever bird they laid their teeth in. I wished I had wolfes, coyotes and foxes to rid me of them. I couldn’t stay up every nights to try and catch them. I would have gladly given them my culls. Racoons and rats usually killed my best ones! But sadly, at the time, wolves and foxes were pretty rare around my farm.

      I did have falcons and eagles roaming about. That’s when I would go in my coop and select the weak and cross-bred birds and take them outside. Within minutes the falcons would come and pick them up. That way I didn’t have to kill them and I fed an excellent mice, rat and squirrel controler, keeping them close to my coop.

      Wild dogs are another thing, though. THEY are dangerous and give the wolves their bad reputation. They kill for fun, are not well organized like wolves and will even attack humans, contrary to wolves! But as most people don’t know the difference between coyotes, wolves and wild dogs, they think they are either coyotes or wolves and blame them instead of wild dogs. Luckilly, wolves will usually kill and eat them, thus helping humans!

      The most dangerous animal on earth is the one that walks on 2 legs and pretends to be intelligent, a gun in hand! Yes, ignorance is truly a bliss!

      • Brian

        Paul, you moron read what you wrote! Can’t blame the coons & rats for trying to survive. Sounds stupid! A wolf is not going to eat a coon when they have them health beef cattle that you referenced in your article. coyotes & fox will eat a coons and rat. The deer population has been wiped out in some areas in Wisconsin. Wolves are wiping out domestic animals & cattle at an alarming rate. If they were in your area eating your beef cattle you would think differently. They don’t serve a purpose. And talk shit about guns?? What protects your dumb ass and keeps you free to talk stupid? GUNS are a big part of that! Wolves eating racoons, think about it you dumb ass!

        • Rain

          @Brian, really? You’re gonna curse? Like that makes a difference. What Paul said was true. Wolves don’t kill other wolves or animals for fun or profit like we do. Wolves don’t think immature and curse like you do. Wolves and other animals need to survive like we do. But was gets on my nerves is that when the humans do something stupid everyday. They act like they own the place when they don’t. I’m not trying to be rude, but I think you’re the idiot. Take no offense, but wolves are smarter than you. Think twice before you post, and even for your stupidity, think hundreds of times because you are a rude, sad, and pathetic person.

  • imnaha-dog

    Probably had to do more with “dumb luck”   ,but,  the wolf-bugle and predator call worked.     I had three wolves come in,  and,   when I moved to a different location I had three separate coyotes also come in.   I’ve never seen that many dogs in a single day-trip before.   I’m glad that my enormous dogs were already back in the Jeep when the wolves came over the hill about 200yds out.   Very anxious to go out again… leaving Brutus and Sophie home   :-(  though.

  • guang

    Great web site, I came here after reading and seeing a link at the anti hunting site The Wildlife News,http://www.thewildlifenews.com/2012/03/22/can-the-public-trust-doctrine-be-used-to-protect-wolves/#comment-112148 

    I’d like to see someone call one in using that ring tone on Defenders of Wildlife, talk about irony he  he.

    Waiting for Wyoming to start allowing hunting and waiting to see what the cost of an out of state license would be.

  • Melonj98

    people shouldn’t kill wolves they don’t harm you theres no reason to kill them?

    • Mofunk306

      WOW, really… Did you just say that???? You should give me your email address and I wil send you pictures of my dead and half eaten cows and sheep that will make your stomach turn, NOT to mention the ones I’ve caught to late in the act that they’ve started eating on after it’s fallen but not dead, then I have to go out and kill it for them… And you come on here and run your fingers on your presious keyboard saying it doesn’t hurt me???? My case is closed and point is proven that is DOES HARM me!!!!!

      • JohnC

        Cows that you were planning to kill yourself. Get over yourself, ranchers and shepherds have been dealing with wolves for thousands of years at far greater numbers than you have, maybe you should have thought about that when you chose your living.

        • Sweetfreedomgirl

          Those same ranchers and shepherds have been killing those wolves for thousands of years, so what’s your point? 

        • KillWolvesSaveElk

          That’s real easy for you to say as you sit in your office in new york or somewhere and have absolutely no clue what’s going on in montana, idaho, or wyoming.  Ranchers haven’t been dealing with wolves for thousands of years,  we didn’t have ranching or wolves a thousand years ago you moron.  In the 50′s why do you think our relatives exterminated the wolves in the first place?  Because they caused way too much destruction.  You chose your living because you’re too scared to get outside and are afraid of the world, so you sit in an office at staples somewhere and preach to us who actually live with the mutts, and actually have to deal with the mutts, when you’ve only seen a wolf once in your life.  You need to get over yourself.

        • Jwgreenw

          dear mr john cline,

          it is my understanding that you dont eat meat. because if you did you would know that the ranch/shepherds do NOT kill there animals. they sell them so they can be properly slaughtered, distributed, and eaten by paying custumers. NO ONE AND I MEAN NO ONE IS GOING TO EAT A SHEEP OR COW THAT HAS BEEN BRUTALLY KILLED BY A WOLF!!!!!!!! so when a rancher/shepherd losses an animal to a wolf they get NOTHING out of it but a loss of profit and waist of hard labor that it took to raise that animal.

          go to hell,

          jwgreenw

        • Grnwdsdlry

          …and thats why they were eradicated moron

  • Tdscoressix

    Patricia you are one dumb woman… U speak muttered tounge and probably look like road kill. Feel not the need to breed us with our tiny weenies. Just bless us by becoming road kill yourself thus giving us the pleaure we seek!

  • MarkinID

    Based on what I’ve been reading over the past few months on this comment section, I’m gonna go out on a limb here and conclude that all of the pro-wolf/anti-hunters that troll this website and spew their irrational babble do not actually live in areas that have wolves and/or personally witness the wolves’ impact first hand.
    It appears as if these people seek out forums online to bitch about anything, with little or no actual knowledge of the subject. They leave a senseless, pointless comment and click onto the next website, never to be heard from again.
    Unfortunately, as with most bleeding-heart liberals nowadays, they seem to know so much about so little. Everything about nothing.

    • http://www.facebook.com/budpg William Huard

      Wolves are wild animals you idiot- if people don’t take responsibility for their animals that they claim to care about so much- blame yourselves.  You people are pathetic losers

      • Idahonative68

        Hey check it out this freak job is also known as Budpg.Here in Idaho we call him buttpig.This wackjob is as big a weirdoo as they come.A foul mouth radical animal rights creep who needs his fucking teeth kicked him.Read some of his prior posts.He hates ALL hunters and ALL rural people and sits there behind is computer calling people names.I want him to meet me for a fist fight but this pansy ass creep is a coward.

    • Johncline

      And conservatives must know so much about everything in that case. I’ve lived around wolves for 30 years now and can safely tell you I am both pro-wolf and anti-hunter. People who find their enjoyment killing other beings are pathetic. And then you make it seem as if the wolves are at fault for killing – look at your damn selves. What makes the life of some fool’s pet dog worth more than a wolf’s? 

      • WolfHater

        no sir your the one thats pathetic!  how and the hell do you think our ancestors got their food and clothes? by trapping and hunting!  i am from montana and live right next to the park and i see this rutheless mutts kill our cattle all the time.  they are stealing from our source of income.  hunters don’t kill to kill they kill for the food, the passion, and the enjoyment of passing it down to their kids! montana is a hunting state and always will be.  its in our states constitution!  if it wasn’t for hunters our ecosystem would be ravaged.  us hunters are the ones that brought back this elk population due to responsible management and now it went to shit in a hand basket because of wolves.  people like you dont have to deal with the wolves like us ranchers and outfitters who are trying to make a living.  i think you need to take a look at yourself and maybe get out and hunt and live a little instead of trying to protect a subject that you know absolutely nothing about!

      • KillWolvesSaveElk

        Who the fuck do you think you are.  You are a fucking moron, and just like Ted Turner’s minions, you think you are an earth child, and that every human who uses the environment for recreation other than bird watching should be slain,  and you think the animals will just shake hands and balance themselves out once the bunny humping,  knot fucking, tree hugging, granola eating, sandal wearing liberals like you clean the rest of the human population out.  You haven’t lived around wolves for 30 years, or you would have understood how graphic it is to see a wolf kill an elk.  It’s real beautiful seeing a wolf hold down a cow elk while the others rip the calf fetus out of the whom while its still alive, then leave the cow there to suffer and die.  That’s real fucking humane isn’t it?   You should do the population a favor and go move to china or just fall into a pit somewhere with a bunch of rabies infested wolves and see how king shit you turn out.  My dog’s life is worth a million times over a wolf’s.  Conservatives know a million times more than you do even about wolves.  We have said time and time again what they are doing to our populations here,  and you think you know about them because you watch them from your car in yellowstone park?  Get outdoors and see if you see any elk in mass population’s outside of the park or even in the park.  You’ll be lucky to see 100 head of elk now a days.

      • Idahonative68

        What a disgusting fucking liar.You I never been outside a city park you fucking worthless piece of human shit.You sound a lot like William Huard AKA Budpg.Maybe we should just clear that planet of all humans so radical animal rights wackjobs like yourself can be happy.Lets get one thing straight wackjob I am not anti wolf but strongly believe wolves should be managed by competent wildlife biologists and not eco wackjobs from urban cesspools.Folks there is war going on against this human filth and until we wipe them off this planet forever and stop treating these nutjobs from PETA, ALF and HSUS like mere irritants and start treating them like the dangerous terrorists human filth they truly are they are going to destroy the human race.Save a human pound a PETArd.

    • Jwgreenw

      OH MY GOD!! i have come to the conclution that YOU are one of these people you speek of. do you live in the north west? do you have wolves howling out you back door? do you have to worry about lossing another calf to predation??? because if you dont than you need to keep your idiotic comments like this one to your self you self richeous hypocrite.

      • Grnwdsdlry

        mark in IDAHO you richeous hypocrite

    • Jwgreenw

      sorry i miss under stood your post, i was tired and didnt read it fully.
      sorry

    • SkyHawk108

       I don’t think that’s entirely true as we are dealing with predators here in the east ( Coyotes, Coywolves, and black bears). The predators we face may not be the super predators that you face (Wolves, Grizzlies, Cougars), but they do still have a huge impact. In fact. coyotes easily have a bigger impact when it comes to livestock and pet depredation as well as being a bigger threat to us when it comes to attacks due to the fact that they are so bold and adaptive (Coywolves are even worse then the coyotes you face in the west because they are bigger (they are usually 60 pounds and up) and also bolder and smarter and therefore are capable of killing larger pets, cattle and full grown humans.)

      It should also be pointed out that most wolf experts actually live out in wolf country (Yellowstone National Park, International Wolf Center, Mission Wolf, the Wolf Pack Management (The organization created by Shawn Elllis in Poland that helps ranchers find non lethal solutions to their wolf problems)) etc. because that is where they are going to get the best information/ do the most good. Many pro wolfers also live out west (Some setting up pro wolf pages on Facebook) because they know what’s going on in the west (admittedly though, these people are also usually more moderate in their views on wolves which is where I think everyone out here in the east should believe because this would help save the wolves.

      We wolf lovers in the east have more extremist beliefs because we are looking at the extreme wolf haters out west as well as well as the less then responsible hunting goals in Idaho (150 wolves) and especially in Wyoming (191 wolves( 60 percent) which would mean that hundreds of wolves would be killed which could put them at risk of being re-listed on the endangered species list (Which is something I don’t think hunters and ranchers would want) and we worry for the wolves that we spent millions of dollars to bring into America.So I believe that if Idaho and Wyoming follow Minnesota with more pro active (Nonlethal) methods of protecting livestock and maybe looking in different places for the elk along with a more reasonable goal for management I think you’ll see a lot less “Trolls” on this site because we, like you worry about the ecosystem and how we can make it healthier.  

  • anIdahohunter

    Whats the deal with wolf lovers? How come there arent any bear lovers or cougar lovers that post about how we shouldnt hunt bear and cougar, you dont see stuff like that….
    How are they going to feel if hydatid disease spreads to peoples dogs and peoples kids start getting it and stuff?  More than half of the wolves are infected with it and they do get in close to small towns where it could be easily spread to dogs in a neighborhood.

    • Guest

      Yes they do come in close, I live in a small town in northern ID, a neighbors black lab came up missing, it was found about 200 yards from the edge of town eaten, all that was left was a head and a butt and a spine connecting them, and wolf tracks all around it.

    • SkyHawk108

       I think it may be because we didn’t spend millions of dollars bringing cougars and bears back to America and cougars and bears don’t have the “Rock Star” status in yellow stone as wolves do, so they don’t feel as invested in cougars and bears as they do wolves and therefore, aren’t as likely to protect them. There are also many people who believe that all wolves should be killed which makes conversationalists worry for the animals they worked so hard to reintroduce into the united states and therefore want them to be protected again so they wouldn’t have to worry about wolves being exterminated again. If you guys (Hunters and Ranchers) try sending the message that, although you don’t like wolves, you agree they need to be in the ecosystem and that you ARE NOT GOING TO KILL THEM ALL AND ONLY WANT TO ENSURE A HEALTHY ECOSYSTEM, I am sure they wouldn’t be as angry. Also, if you worry about wolves harming use with diseases, I would think you should hunt the wolves that are nearer to human settlements as this is where they pose the biggest threat.

      • KillWolvesSaveElk

        The problem with that is you hardly see the whole pack down by human settlements.  One wolf by the town needs to be killed as well as its whole pack does.  One wolf with disease will spread it to other wolves, that’s just the way it is.  It’s not just the “Big Picture” we are worried about,  the small things the government and socialists in this country are trying to impose are just as bad.  For instance,  i beleive they reintroduced the wolves to decimate our elk and deer populations so that we have nothing else to hunt, therefore having no more use for our guns,  then take our guns from us.   See it’s not just about the wolves,  it’s gun control,  trampling over the 2nd admendment, and all over private property rights.  We are thinking ahead too.

  • Matt

    I think the only comment I have to make is that we need to manage, not exterminate the wolves…. the wolf lovers out there are just responding with their classic knee jerk… thinking that we are going to exterminate the wolves just for shits. Some of the people out there hunting wolves have not done hunters any favors by putting pictures of dead ones all over the internet.

    Like we all learned before… hunting is a balance, we want to keep the wolves, bears and cougars so we can keep shooting them and teach our kids how to shoot them for the next 1000 years… it comes with its costs I know. The sad part is that most of the bleeding hearts out there have never ever seen the animals that you or I see every week or so…. for example if those damn Rhino’s go extinct I am gonna be pissed!

  • Parrott_b

    Hunting for “sport”, isn’t hunting, its killing. Hunters do so for population control, protection, food, etc. All those that preach about mankind overtaking wild animals populace, where do you live? What do you drive? Where do your kids go to school? How big is the office, or city, or anything else you live in. Hunters take a great deal of responsibility to protect the animals, so they continue to be healthy, productive, and a natural part of the ecosystem. If populations are not kept in check, then disease will spread within that environment, crop destruction to the point of shortage, livestock damage with attacks and diseases to the point of heavy loss. We are here as humans, and have changed the land/environment/country/world. Hunters spend more than any other group to protect the ecosystem as a whole. When you live in your lean-to, forage vegetation, and allow yourself and family to be at the whim of nature and its beasts, then you have a firm footing to chastis. Untill then, you are subsiding off what hunters, and real shepherds of the environment and its bounties, have provided.

  • josh

    I’m a wolf lover but I understand there needs to be balance and I understand wolves cause damage to livestock, etc.  I hope Idaho manages them responsibly.  With some compromise from all sides I think there can be a happy medium somewhere.

    • SkyHawk108

       I totally agree, there definitely needs to be a compromise
      between anti wolfers and pro wolfers so that we continue having a healthy
      ecosystem for the future. We cannot continue with all this black and white
      (Extremist) thinking when it comes to wolves because a) all animals were put on
      this earth for a reason and although we are the 
      top predators of this planet we also need to know that we are one
      species out of 2.5 MILLION and although, at this point, management of animal
      populations are necessary, extermination of any species or deciding which
      species is better then another s never okay because every animal has a purpose and
      b) We can’t never hunt any animals because we need to eat and to protect
      ourselves and our property coupled with the fact that if we don’t have
      regulated hunts, it will be  like what
      happened before the 1900s where it is a free for all and every animal on the
      planet will likely be put in danger of extinction.

      I believe that this plan needs to include hunting of wolves
      to help elk populations grow and minimize conflict, but not decimating their
      numbers which would harm the ecosystem and would put them back on the
      endangered species list (Which I am sure that hunters and ranchers would not
      like as this would mean that they would not be able to kill wolves). I believe
      that hunting should mostly take place in places that are close to human
      settlements like ranches (as long as you aren’t aiming at pets, livestock or
      homes and taking safety precautions) or popular elk hunting spots because that
      is where wolves are posing the biggest problem to humans and would give them a
      healthy fear of human settlements. Another idea for increasing fear of humans
      in wolves without lethal removal are BB guns rubber bullets or pepperball guns
      ( Guns that have pepper spray inside the bullets), although I can see how this
      might not be as practical on big ranches due to the fact that you can’t be
      everywhere and scare off every wolf. But you can put your cattle and sheep in a
      safer location (maybe a barn if you have a smaller flock or just for weaker individuals
      or an electrified fence for a larger herd). You can also use fladry and guard
      dogs to protect the flock (Watch Lords of Nature documentary to see some of
      these ideas being implemented.)

      Another thing I would like to point out is that people in
      the east ARE living with predators (mostly coyotes and coywolves (Watch
      “The invaders” S1 EP5 for proof)) And these animals cause a much
      bigger problem then wolves when it comes to livestock depredation (although
      only the coywolves pose a real threat to local deer populations as they are
      much bigger then a regular coyotes and also tend to be a bigger threat to people
      due to the fact that have taken from the coyote, it’s extreme adaptation skills
      and boldness).  There are also many pro
      wolfers in wolf states as well as some of the greatest wolf experts and wolf
      organizations.In closing I would also like to point out that we (Pro wolfers and anti wolfers) need to stop beating each other down as we both have the same goal ( helping the ecosystem) as well as getting rid of the stereotypes that anti wolfers have for pro wolfers ( No nothing city slickers who are vegans and hug trees) and pro wolfers for anti wolfers ( uneducated barbaric rednecks who shoot anything that moves) as these are not always true and hold us back from a true compromise.

  • angela.klock

    The problem isn’t to many wolves its to little habitat and this holds true for all species that have been listed. If the wolf has rebounded to levels that require hunting to manage due to the very environmental rules that hunters protest then all wildlife killers should praise environmentalists! PS killing wolves is sport killing, don’t kid yourself, there is no majesty in that!

    • KillWolvesSaveElk

      The problem is exactly too many wolves.  When they reintroduced the wolves in the nineties in YNP,  the Lead Biologist, now not just an ordaniary biologist, he was a full blood Wolf Biologist.  He said YNP could only hold 70 wolves,  just 70 wolves,  or 4 breeding pairs for four years, before they would have to start to manage the wolf population.  We reached that goal not more than 3 years after we reintroduced them.  That same biologist some 8 years later,  deemed the population out of control, and that the females in every pack were being bred, and having a litter of pups sometimes 2 times a year.  He even said some females who just a year and a half old were even being bred and raising pups.  Do you actually think the wolves were going to stay in the Park?  As smart as you sound probably.  They said just reintroduce them into the park,  not on national or public lands outside of the park.  We need to start aerial gunning, poisoning, trapping, and hunting the hell out of wolves till they are extinct,  we have enought predation from the bears and lions here in montana.  You don’t hear people talking about them.  There’s no room left in the forests of the western states for these mutts.  We also don’t protest elk or deer hunts, just the animals that are overrunning our state and killing our wildlife we so dearly love.

  • http://twitter.com/sw_dad Star Wars Dad

    Wolves don’t breed like rabbits.  Because they’re not rabbits.  The average wolf doesn’t breed until they’re at least two years old, and dies by the age of five.  Hunting wolves to “protect livestock” is what put them on the endangered species list to begin with.  The argument of protecting livestock by proactively hunting and killing these evil predators is literally medieval: it’s the same logic Henry VII used in the 1400s when he wiped out England’s wolf population.

    As for whining about the decimated deer and elk populations, no way could that have anything to do with the 35,138 deer and 11,794 elk harvested in 2010, according to the Idaho Department of Fish and Game.  Nope, it’s definitely those wolves who can kill one deer to feed a pack and often go a week between hunts.

    There was an estimated 1000 wolves in Idaho last year.  By current estimates, that population has been reduced by over 1/3rd in a single season.  Good job.  It’ll be interesting to see what else you blame for your decimated populations once the wolves are out of the picture again.

    • Ljrockafellow

      i am from montana and live right in the upper yellowstone area and these wolves are reaking havic on livestock everyday.  i see it! we had the largest show case elk herd in the world and that consisted of about 19,000 elk.  today your lucky to see 1500 come out of the park onto the wintering ranges.  the elk are just decimated because of these useless mutts! and yes they do breed like rabbits because the state promised that the wolf population wouldn’t get past 200 some wolves after the re-introduction and now there is too many to count.  a deal is a deal! we need to get a grip on this wolf issue because the hunters livelyhood in my area is gone.  as of the 2012 hunting season there is no more moose hunting in the paradise valley and gardiner areas because there are no more moose.  we need to start decimating the wolf population and any wolf lover out there that doesn’t think so can simply kiss my ASS!

      • Powerslave

        Ljrockafellow, it is YOU and your ilk that need to be decimated. I don’t care if you’re shot, hanged, electrocuted, gassed, poisoned, decapitated, broken on the wheel, whatever. But it is YOU and the rest of the populace that still lives like it’s the fucking Dark Ages that need to be removed in large numbers. Any haters who don’t like what was just said here can suck my balls!

      • somsai

        Sorry to hear of the horrible decimation of wildlife Ljrockafellow, I hope you see a return of all the animals within your lifetime.

    • Wolfkiller

      Well when we didn’t have wolves nothing decimated our herds.. us hunters we don’t just kill for fun we kill to feed our families and put food on our tables we don’t do it just to kill them plus we manage our herds not kill them all off.. like the wolves the kill more than one animal a week to feed a pack it takes way more than one elk or deer to feed a pack a week.. so if we didn’t have wolves us ranchers and hunters wouldn’t bitch about the wolves

    • KillWolvesSaveElk

      You have no idea what you’re talking about.  Obviously by the User Name you have on this website, you don’t get outdoors much.  Us hunters and conservationists know exactly what’s happening to our populations.  You can’t claim yourself a conservationist or even an environmentalist which is the scum of the earth.  You don’t know cuz you’re not out there.

      • She(:

        I think everyone gets the idea you dont want to deal with people who are trying to save wolves. Why is it you want to save elk? Hunters hunt them too. So before you start talking to people like you have the right to treat them rude think about how people question you on saving elk. So you sir, need to get your facts straight. Your going to keep hunting these wolves to the point of extinction and you are proud of it. I dont blame you for loving what you do. And you should not blame others for hating what you do…

        • KillWolvesSaveElk

          us hunters are the ones who brought back this elk population with proper and responsible management.  the wolf population is out of control.  just look at the elk herd in yellowstone park…there is no more elk!  and it wasnt because of the hunters because we can’t hunt in the park so that pretty much narrows it down to the wolves.  there is no balance!!!  the reason we want to save elk is because hunting is what this state is all about.  its in our states constitution that montana shall forever be a hunting state and that is going tits up.  so before you spout off about trying to correct the hunters maybe you should do more research and get your fucking facts straight!

        • KillWolvesSaveElk

          And see that’s what makes this world so F&@#$D  up,  is the people who hate what i do,  absolutely have no idea what they’re  talking about,  just like YOU!  Our elk populations are on the brink of extinction,  the wolves however are not.  Elk numbers go down every year, and wolf populations go up.  You see what i’m so fired up about.  We need to hunt the animals that hunt our animals,  those animals being the wolves.  Killing wolves = saving elk.  So you need to get your facts straight,  and as politely as possible….MIND YOUR OWN BUISNESS.  Please.  Thanx

    • Jwgreenw

      it is estimated that the Kill rate per wolf is 1 elk/14 days. thats two weeks. there are 52weeks in a year…that means 52/2=26… 26×1000=26000….that means that aproximatly 26000elk were killed by wolves in idaho last year. compare that to your 11,794. but that is if wolve were only killing elk… average weight of an elk is between 500 and 700 pounds, deer are between 180 and 250. thats at least 2 deer to one elk. do the math. also wolve hunt the young more than the adults so they would need to eat more young to make it up. you still think we have no right to blame the wolf for game population going down???? before the introduction of wolves most heards were stable!!! and even if we reduced the wolf population by 1/3rd. they can more than make it up in the next year, with two litters per alfa female, each litter being nearly equal to the size of her pack, even if most of the pupps die they will still make up for there losses. this is science not bullshit!!! i did my research, did you? 

    • T

      but dont worry all those redneck highscool drop outs with a shotgun know how to balance the population of an entire species…

    • Muskrat

      Keep believeing that bullshit, maybe you can defend yourself with your light saber when they come for you. Montana and Idaho had an Increece (yeah I know it’s spelled wrong) in wolf numbers this last spring despite the wolf hunts. Kinda shoots down your theroy there dosn’t it Luke?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1220797564 Linda Camac

    Your claim of wolves killing tons of livestock is highly exaggerated and false.  If anyone is interested in the ‘truth’ here – wolves are responsible for LESS THAN 1% of livestock deaths.  Example in Wyoming 2010, 41,000 cattle/sheep died….out of 41,000 only 26 cows and 33 sheep can be blamed on wolf predation!   Let’s get REAL, even if culling wolves were your real objection, why would you arrow them and trap them….traps are TORTURE.  You guys have a blood lust and kill for fun, and what more fun than an animal better looking than you, smarter than you, and more socially connected with family and nature than you!  

    • somsai

      Traps are how they got the wolves to import in the first place. If you don’t want wolves killed don’t import them.

      • Muskrat

        GREAT POINT!! THANK YOU!!!

    • KillWolvesSaveElk

      You might want to get your facts straight before you start preaching to people who have had research and development in wildlife management.  You need to wake up from this blaintant attempt to stop the wolf hunts in montana and idaho.   Liberals and environmentalists like you dodge the question every time it’s laid on the table.  There has been countless livestock deaths in montana this year,  all have been confirmed by wolves.  I am a hunter, for the passion, sport, and to put meat on the table.  We literally have no, and i mean zilch elk left north of yelowstone park.  The biologist for Montana Fish Wildlife and Parks in this region has deemed the elk population way too low,  she also said mountain lions are not the number one cause, its Wolves, then Grizzly bears.  You can talk to her,  because she has a major in wildlife management, and you don’t, so get your head out of your ass, wake the fuck up,  stop recycling your sandals, and start siding with the true conservationists,  THE HUNTERS!!!    If anybody should know what happened to the elk population, it’s the hunters, we are in the environment alot more out of the year then you are.  The only time you’re in the woods is birdwatching or taking your dogs for a walk waiting to get mauled by the animals you so dearly love.  

    • Muskrat

      Lady, you don’t have a clue. One of the local ranchers here in Salmon Idaho has lost more than 40 calves in the last 3 years alone. My boss had one killed 2 weeks ago, and it is not the first. There have been many others in our tiny little area.Trapping, if done right, is not as bad as it’s made out to be, I’ve done it 35 years now.That’s why the name “Muskrat”, it’s not just for this, it’s what folks call me every day on the street. As with anything else, it needs to be done as humanely as possible. Thats why Idaho Fish & Game requires a class, before you can trap wolves. As far as “tons or livestock” being false, ever weigh a cow??

  • http://www.facebook.com/JJ.SHEPHERDS J.a. Crowder

    Wolves only have 1 breeding pair, they don’t breed like Rabbit’s Get your facts Right Killing Cattle & sheep Like You People Claim, YOUR INSANE, Linda’s  is correct Your claim of wolves killing tons of livestock is highly exaggerated and
    false.  If anyone is interested in the ‘truth’ here – wolves are
    responsible for LESS THAN 1% of livestock deaths.  Example in Wyoming
    2010, 41,000 cattle/sheep died….out of 41,000 only 26 cows and 33
    sheep can be blamed on wolf predation!   Let’s get REAL, even if culling
    wolves were your real objection, why would you arrow them and trap
    them….traps are TORTURE.  You guys have a blood lust and kill for fun,
    and what more fun than an animal better looking than you, smarter than
    you, and more socially connected with family and nature than you!  acts are correct. your blood thirsty , no respect for our natural wild life. One Day You Will Pay for your Dirty Deeds,

    • somsai

      You as most city folks are uninformed. Wolf populations doubled every three years since they were introduced, it’s a matter of historical record. Wolves can breed every bitch in a pack. Reported and actual livestock deaths are two different things. Traps are as painful as the leash you use to walk your dog. Poison is painful, and poison is probably what will end up being used as the wolf population is wildly out of control. You should be happy these hunters and trappers are making such a humane attempt to reign in the out of control wolf population without poison.

      • Fredfred

        I hope you trappers death is as horrible if not worse than what you do to these animals 

        • somsai

          FYI I don’t trap. But thanks for wishing death on me. Perhaps you could talk things over with a psychiatrist before you harm anyone or yourself.

    • wolves are worthless

      Are you retarded? If those animals were your livelihood you would understand why people hate wolves. How would you feel if some worthless animal came up to you and ate a few thousand of your dollars. Yep, wolves are smarter and more socially connected than humans and that’s why were the ones with the guns to shoot the worthless animals that we won’t regret not having in the future because were much better at controlling wildlife populations than they are. So honestly are you retarded?

    • Jwgreenw

      hahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!! snif snif… thats the funniest damn thing i ever heard! because you must be jokeing right? 41000 sheep and cattle died 26 cows and 33 sheep were PROVEN to be killed by wolves! the majority of the rest were not, but it doesnt mean they werent, more than likely most were killed by preditors including bear coyote couger and wolf. and geuss what, we dont like them either. its bad for buissness. there is no “Blood lust” we just dont want to loose our livestock. lets put it this way, would you let a deer come in and eat you garden every night? no because by harvest time you have nothing left. so you scare them off make a fence. well wolves are not afraid of us and its imposible and impractical to build a fence to keep them out so there is only one solution. if you can think of a way to keep preditors out of our livestock we’er all for it!

  • Conservationist

    LJrockafellow,
    It’s people like you who continue to ruin the environment for countless generations.  Next time you go out for a walk please wear a wolf skin coat.  That one sacrifice will be worth it. Your blood lust has made you sick.

    • Wolfslayer

      I sure as hell am not going to be wearing an elk skin coat because all of the damn wolves have killed them off. Maybe i will go and make a coat with all of the wolf hides i have hanging out in my shed.

      • Wolfkiller

        amen to that. i will post a picture of that coat when its

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000504042263 Aiyanic Bonnic

        You fucking idiots. Man has destroyed the balance in nature, because we have GUNS. In case you didn’t know, HUMANS killed off the elk, the bison, the moose, etc. INCLUDING THE WOLVES who co-existed with all the prey they hunted for hundreds of thousands of years… The fact that you idiots want to destroy a BIT OF NATURE that is FINALLY coming back after years and years of being hunted towards near extinction is sick, selfish, and sadistic. Fuck everyone who kills these creatures for their own disgusting enjoyment. At least kill a deer or something that you can actually EAT instead of a wolf. Killing them is for sport & fun. They are in no way detrimental to human society, our livestock, or our game. By the way it is not OURS… It is god’s, nature’s.

        • somsai

          There is no balance of nature, look it up. 

          That’s what kills me about wolf huggers, no science, no practical experience, nothing but a bunch of profanities. 

    • Awdenecke1

      Hunters are the biggest group of conservationists on this planet and we back that up with our dollars.  If you drop the emotion and look what really works for wildlife conservation the hunter plan beats everything else.

      • garyw30

        Hunters are not conservationists. Hunters are wildlife killers. The myth that hunters are conservationists is being exposed as false.

        • Huntinman78

          You are dead wrong. If it were not for hunters, wildlife would be overpopulated. An area can only support so many of a species. When they become overpopulated, they start dying of starvation and disease. That is when wildlife suffers. I fell so sorry for you in the fact that you are blinded to the truth.

        • KillWolvesSaveElk

          You are 100% wrong garyw30.  You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about,  and like all the other earth lover bunny humping hippies on this site, you decided to hop on the band wagon and preach your ideas and thoughts to us on here.  This is a hunting website, a wolf hunting website to boot,  so let wolf hunters talk on here not you cuz you’re not welcome.  Hunters are conservationists and more.  We hunt wildlife because we care about wildlife just like generations past have.  If not for us the wildlife populations would not be balanced.  you don’t hunt obviously so you don’t know that.  You just think the animals will just live in peace and harmony and shake hands and everything will balance itself out.  It would be a god damn zoo if you had your way with it.  And that’s not going to work.  Alls there would be is wolves, and i’m not having that.  If you wan’t to take the spiritual and religious aspect of things,  take this into consideration.  As said in the bible when the Lord created humans,  “Man has complete and total domain over every creature walking on earth, and shall remain so until no longer present”.  The Lord……YOUR Creator,  even put us to manage wildlife.   So think next time you speak.

      • Vegan

        OR become a vegan. No live is worth taking. How would you like to be hunted? Every second you would have to be on the lookout for predators, which humans have not done for quite some time…

        • HuntWolvesSaveElk

          You’re a hypocrite and don’t even know it.  Every time you pluck a tomato or cucumber off of a plant you killed a living organism.  Cucumbers and tomatos have feelings and lives too.  How can you do that, you’re an asshole.   We hunt to eat just as you harvest to eat.   We both kill living organisms to survive.  That’s how humans live.  That’s the way it’s been for hundreds of years so get used to it.  How would you feel being that tomato or cucumber and get plucked off of it’s plant.  Least the animals we hunt can run,   your’s can’t.

  • Fredfred

     hope you all trappers own death is as horrible if not worse than what you do to these animals 

  • Al’s Bear Camp

    Please anti hunters, be realistic. The same arguments you have towards wolf hunting are exactly what we heard when the MN bear seasons were opened. We now have more bears in MN than ever before. No true hunters want wolves wiped out, far from it. How did Idaho get wolves? They came from Yellowstone where the first pairs were planted not long ago. We were told they would be “controlled” don’t worry. Hmm now they have spread to all surrounding states. Since the western wolf seasons opened, all those states combined have not gotten close to killing a thousand wolves. You think up here  in deep brushy northern MN it’s going to be easier? Hardly. There is no hunting allowed in Yellowstone yet the elk heard there has gone from a 27,000 animal average to just over 6000 since the wolves were brought back. The buffalo are down as well in the park. With no hunting allowed and the wolves not to blame I guess the animals just found a cliff to leap off?? Animal suicide? When wolves are rearing pups, it coincides with fawns and calves being born. The wolf pack eats hardest at that time to gain back lost winter weight and feed pups. A 6 or 7 pound fawn or 10-20 pound moose/elk  calf are just an appetizer to wolves often over 100 pounds. Walk along up here in the summer months with me and see all the wolf droppings with little bitty hoofs and teeth in them. And trust me, wolves do kill for sport it’s well documented. They get into a caribou herd or snow trapped deer herd and they kill without pause. Living my life in the backwoods of northern MN I saw the decline and watched the wolf return and the effects it’s had. Trust me, the wolves will do just fine, they’ll get a bit smarter, and lot more cautious as soon as the first gun goes off in their direction. Sorry folks, but it’s not a Disney movie out here in the real bush.

    • Muskrat

      Al’s Bear Camp, I agree completely except one small thing. Idaho got it’s wolves from Canada, not Yellowstone. In fact we got them a week or two before Yellowstone got theirs. Outside of that, I have seen the same things you describe. Big wolf turds full of hair and tiny hoofs. Our hunting has gone from good when I moved here in 1991, to awfull now in 2012. They turned the wolves loose in 1995, the first few years it wasn’t realy noticable, but now…..well, theres not much left. Snowed here again last night, I hope to go wolf hunting and look for wolf tracks tomarrow.

    • Loki

      Sooo…. If no one wants wolves wiped out, why is this sites slogan “Help preserve wolves…Take one to a Taxidermist” My point is that there is a huge difference between a sportsman/sportswoman hunter and an irresponsible hunter. I knew a true sportsman deer hunter when I was young. He hunted deer with a bow, without baiting. Then, when he brought his buck back to the DNR, he kept it covered so as to not shed a poor light on hunters knowing that not everyone appreciates seeing his trophy. He did not post photos on the internet and did not antagonize activists. He also donated to nature preservation organizations. He left a lasting impression on me and is the reason I hold a great deal of respect for sportsmen and sportswomen today. So, my question back is: Which is in more danger of becoming endangered? Grey Wolves or Sportsmen/Sportswomen? Why do wolves need to be baited and snared in a trap? In Wisconsin, why is a law being passed allowing hunters to use up to 6 dogs? Hunting is supposed to be a challenge, isn’t it? Do you really think selling the “big bad wolf” story to educated conservationists is going go anywhere? I think most people on both sides realize that the wolf is one of the top predators. Maybe it is time to show conservationists that there are still some sportmen/sportswomen out there. Ask your local DNR to set up a challenging and fair wolf hunting regulations. Irresponsible hunters need shape up and true hunters should put more pressure on them to do so. In the same respect, extreme activists shed a bad light on conservationists. They need to recognize that there are hunters out there that are good stewards of nature and that some of the strongest voices for wildlife and habitat preservation. They are just harder to find on the internet.

  • Grnwdsdlry

    i was born and raised on a ranch in west central idaho, and now i work for a large ranch just five miles down the road from the ranch i was raised on we have been having problems with wolves all winter long and not to long ago i went to check on the few head we had left to calve and one cow and calf were missing so i grabbed my gun and started to look for them, when here they came with a wolf on there tail, so i shot, but unfortunately i missed, then the next day i went to check them again, and i desided to see if there were any more wolves around and i just happen to run into a couple but this time my aim was a little better so i called fish and game, but now they are investigating it, and i have no proof that the wolf i shot was causing the cattle any immediate danger, is there any chance you could tell me what kind of penalties i may be facing if the rule that it wasnt a legal kill.

    • Nick

      Sorry, to hear you called the f&g…..the will spend $100,000 trying to find you guilty of something….and if they can’t find you guilty the idiots in Sun Valley will try to use the new, “crulty to animal” law. So, good luck!!! Next time..SSS

      • garyw30

        Advocating breaking the law. Another so called “sportsmen” who isn’t law abiding.

        • Nick

          garyw.
          you would see it that way…..you from S.V.???
          I’m telling him to protect his livestock, and don’t mess with the paperwork. Hence, the next time.

        • Grnwdsdlry

          and just so you know we gathered cows yesterday, and we found a died calf, the goverment trapper came today and confirmed it as a wolf kill, i have pictures for proof

        • Jwgreenw

          advocating protection of livelyhood and property! Another hippy who doesnt have the slightest idea of what its like to work for a living! if a man come and steals you car are you just going to let him go because he needs to make a living?

        • Muskrat

          When the “Law” is made by stupid people,with no idea of what they are dictateing for the ones affected most by it,you can not abide by that law. If you want to call us outlaws,or worse, have at it. This is still the “wild west” in many ways, we don’t call the cops and lawers to do our fighting, we do it ourselves.

      • Grnwdsdlry

        i was protecting the livestock, and i have a legal right to, but i thought that becouse i had saw the first wolf after a calf, that if they came back the next day for more, it was legal to shoot, and it IS, but apparently you have to call the f&g and tell them you have wolf problems, and they will give you a “kill permit”, a piece of paper is the only thing that keeps it from being perfectly legal

        • Muskrat

          My Uncle Bill pointed out something I had never though about. He said that a permit is a bribe to look the other way of an illegal activeity. If you do not have a permit(bribe) you are not legal. Pay the permit(bribe) you are now legal. When put that way, it makes even less sence. If they are killing your livestock, you have every right to defend them, and put a stop to the cause of it. If a lady shoots somone thats trying to rape her, is she suppost to get a permit to defend herself first? Yeah, it’s not the same thing I know, but it’s not that much different. You have a right to defend youself,and your property.

    • somsai

      Good Luck with all those critters Grnwdsdlry, hope your aim stays good.

    • Muskrat

      They will do their best to hang you. Never trust the government to do whats right. You should be OK though, if it was on private ground. They need to prove you are lieing about the wolves chaseing cattle. Since you called them, and they didn’t catch you on their own, that will be hard for them to do. Good luck, if it dosn’t go well, fight it!! You do have the right to protect your cattle, or the cattle of the ranch you work for.Let us know how it turns out.

  • garyw30

    if wolves are worthless, what are hunters? Hunters are worthless inbreds.

  • garyw30

    There is nothing sporting about killing wildlife. The only reason you want to kill wolves is because you think if you kill wolves, there will be elk for you to kill. Wolves rely on elk for survival. You do not.

    • Grnwdsdlry

      bullshit were i come from we dont eat the cattle we raise because that how we make our living, and not a very easy living either, mostly because now the wolves are eating all of our prophet (not that it was easy to make a prophet before now its just that much harder), we get one pay check a year when we sell our calves and even when the price of cattle is way up, and you spend your money wisely we are still out of money before the end of the year, we dont kill game for sport, we kill elk and deer so we have something to eat untill our next annual paycheck.
      i wish you could walk in my shoes for a day
       

    • KillWolvesSaveElk

      That’s the biggest pile of bull shit i’ve ever heard.  I’ll give you my address and you can fly up here and talk all of this shit to my face instead of through your computer.  I get sick and tired of people like you, who have NO idea what you’re talking about getting on here and writing two or three sentences just rambling on making yourself look like an idiot,  and make no sense whatsoever.  We are killing wolves so there is elk to hunt for future generations,  and to put meat on the tables of future generations.  You sir are a complete idiot. 

    • Savethewolves

      Very true.
      I’d like to add that most all of the large game wolves kill are sick, very old, or injured. Wolves keep the population healthy. They are most definatly not taking the hunters “big prize game”

      • KillWolvesSaveElk

        Do you have a degree in wildlife management?  probably not judging from that dumb ass comment.  And if you do,  you were just some brainwashed liberal student from back east who tries to tell us westerners how to run our lives.  Elk kill healthy bull elk,  healthy cow elk,  healthy calves, sick calves, sick cows, sick bulls,  old bulls, old cows,  they eat anything that will run from them.  You have NO idea what you are talking about.  You hear this from the sierra club or wildlife advocate sites and just assume it’s true.  I can fucking garuntee you have never seen a wolf kill an animal,  it’s down right disgusting.  We had 19,000 elk here in paradise valley in the nineties.  Last years winter range count,  where the fucking largest population of elk winter, and where the biologists with the fish and game do the population counts, was around 3,000 animals.  That is just assanine.  So NO the wolves do not keep the populations healthy because they have eaten close to 15,000 elk in a matter of 15 years.  And before you blame the hunters, because it’s not us, we only killed around 100 elk in the valley this year.  So do your research before you come on here and preach your socialists opinions.

    • Jwgreenw

      you may not need elk for survival, but some people like ME do! so you can just go ahead and eat your words. without hunting our family would not be able to afford meat. and wolves have impared our ability to hunt the game animal we disire! even with our “big guns and powerfull scopes” you cant hunt food if you cant find them because a preditor like the wolf has moved them out of your hunting grounds. i would love to see you try to survive, Mr “Wildlife advocate” on my kinda salery with out hunting. and if you say i would start a garden then i would say your just distroying more valable wildlife habitat. more people than you could posibaly understand need hunting to survive. just because your well off doesnt mean the rest of the world is.

  • earthlover

    im a hunter and i hunt things i love to eat like rabbit and pheasant once in a blue moon to keep it abundant, but for all the people who hunt wolves,bear,or any other large animal just for trophy reasons they are not hunters they are very little men inside who feel the need for control.the wolf is also a hunter just like man but lets see will someone or something hunt man one day?in this case it would be justifiable since man causes harm to the world and wolves don’t !
    As for the ranchers”MAKE A FENCE”
    As for conservation “GOOD FOR NOTHING”
    point is the wolf should have more rights than humans since we are the supperior race we should act like it.not barbaric the opposite

    • Grnwdsdlry

      i am a rancher and we run our cattle over thousands of acres, building a wolf proof fence is impossible and besides that we dont have the kind of money it takes to build thousands of miles of fence (that doesnt work), becouse the wolves are eating up all of our prophet, you need to get your head out of ass and get a clue…

      • SkyHawk108

        Maybe moving the herd more, changing feeding schedules, and putting them somewhere where they could have more protection (A barn for small flocks). Fladry also works really well, you could put it around your flock at night and wolves tend to avoid fladry because it’s weird and scarey, also using howl boxes could help (Just make sure you know how big the pack next door is so you can use it accurately). Using guard dogs would work too to stop wolves from killing sheep.  

        • Grnwdsdlry

          thanks for the suggestions, when we have our cattle close to home during the winter they do get closely gaurded, but unfurtianatly we have to put them on summer pasture and we do move the cattle regularly from pasture to pasture, but the wolves move right with them, during the winter months we have time to gaurd them, but during the summer were to busy building fence, farming, haying….the work never ends, yes if we put alot time, energy, and money into it we could make a difference, but we dont have any of those things, it sounds easy on paper or on a web page but its not that easy in the real world

  • earthlover

    oh and by the way someone should take the author who wrote the page to a “TAXIDERMIST” like he said about the wolves.

  • Lalala

    >:<

  • Mmsgfnadgn

    i think killing wolfs is very unnessacerhard  and cruel considering that they didnt cause a world war we did! and how would you feel if you were just taking anice peacefull dump in the forest and BAM!!!! you get shoot in the head! dont you people know that these wolfs have families to go home to after a good catch of dinner just like us but they dont go to work they are the only creatures that dont have a  hard life having to get good grades or money to stay alive they actually live and peace and that is their best quality and now your taking that away from them

    • Jwgreenw

      do you think it is fair to their pray? what kind of stupid comment is this? do you think its fair to any animal that has to die for another animal to live? life is not fair and HUMANS EAT MEAT!!! and all you veggy munchin morons out there that think different, YOUR WRONG! we did not evolve a large brain by eating grass, we could not sustain a brain like ours without the calories we get from MEAT. Wolves eat our meat we dont like it we get rid of wolf. the same thing happens in nature CONSTANTLY!!! its called compitition for resourses, LOOK IT UP!

    • KillWolvesSaveElk

      Well if i were sitting in the forest taking a dump and got shot in the head….well i wouldn’t feel anything unless you just winged me,  but just shoot again.  That’s how the wolf is going to feel.  And that’s how i’m going to shoot the wolf.  You have no idea what you are talking about.  Do you think wolves know they have a family to go home to?  Wolves can breed two to three times a year so probably not.  You are obviously one of those people who worry too much,  or somebody who always live with fear in your life.  Don’t sweat the small stuff.  There’s worse things in life that can knaw on a person than death, grades, or money to stay alive.  Living is hard, dying is easy.  We are the dominant predators in the environment,  and we are going to take charge cause we aren’t going to let the wolves do it.  That’s just the natual way of the ecosystem, so just get your facts straight before you start preaching. 

  • anonymous

    Breeding like rabbits????Why don’t you dicks go to china and hunt people????that is where they are truly breeding like rabbits..wolves are beneficial for the environment they live in..you are just annoyed because they feed on elk, the only food source they have and you want elk for you sadistic “game”..Come on…Ranchers watching their livelihood vanish?? CUT THE SHIT…wolves DO KNOW the risk of preying on cattle but they are forced to do so because YOU don’t want them to feed on elk! you do not let them feed on either! are you serious??1000 wolves in highly rural states like Idaho and Montana?? I would accept your methods if they were breeding in Manhattan or Detroit, but, THIS ARE THEIR ONLY PLACES TO LIVE!! you can proudly say that you have eliminated them from the lower 48 but NOW you want them extinct from the earth…please people, be civilized, this is not the wild west where wolves were killed in masses! this is the 21st century for Christ sake! STOP KILLING WOLVES FOR WHATEVER STUPID REASON YOU CAN PULL OUT!!

    • Jwgreenw

      your right we dont want wolves to feed on cattle or elk or deer….hey isnt that the reason we got rid of them in the first place? hmmm? yes in fact it is. and we still dont want them eating them. because the “Sadistic Game” as you say, is a livelyhood for many people in the west. its those jackasses back east and from the big cities that act like its a game to come west to the great outdoors to hunt the biggest badest trophy in the woods. i grew up in idaho and now live in montana, and have never met a farmer or ranch that hunted for prize, they hunt for meat. because it would be stupid to eat the cattle they worked so hard to raise and plan to sell, so they can make money so they can raise more cow, so you can have a nice stake to eat for dinner!

    • Grnwdsdlry

      CUT THE SHIT…wolves dont prey on cattle becouse we FORCE them to… GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS, we cant control what they hunt, they choose to prey on cattle instead of elk, becouse cattle are docile, slow, unintelligent animals, which makes them easy prey, and yes we are watching our livelihood vanish, ranchers are a dieing breed, you leaf eating easterners who make more money than a rancher such as myself could ever imagine, dont have any idea how hard it is to make a living out here, i make about 21000 before taxs and expences, when i loose a calf thats 1200 out of my pocket, how much do you make? how does the reintrodution of wolves effect YOU, i cant afford to donate my cattle to feed the wolves, how about YOU, will you reinburse me for that calf to help preserve the wolves, SADISTIC GAME, some people rely on game for FOOD, you think the wolves know the risk… there are thousands of acres that our cattle run over THERE IS NO RISK…if a wolf kills a calf, and there is no one there to see it does it still die?, YES we cant cant gaurd 24/7 over thousands of acres, YOU could undertstand our methods if they were breeding in your back yard, but you cant understand that we dont want them in ours…every thing you said is ignorent , the next time you post something have something intelligent to say

      • nick1259

        one of your other posts said; you were from “west centeral Idaho”.  How far west????  I hunt just East of the sis-pool, called Sunny Valley. If you range in that area I my know you, I know the range..copper basin, North Fork, willow creek, spar canyon, road creek, broken wagen wheel,etc.
        If you are further South and/or west of there, I will come over and learn more of that area and give you a hand.  I have two wolf tags and a bunch of friends that are also carring two….If interested give me a holler, if we can work together we can p.m. later…thanks I’m primarily a archery hunter but with the wolves around we pack “heat”.

        nick

        • Grnwdsdlry

          i dont venture down in your country very often, i live in council, we hunt and run our cattle in area 22, if your looking for wolves we have plenty to spare, just look for cattle and the wolves are likely to be nearby

          • nick1259

            thanks for the reply

            i get a lot of info from there…The Critter news….from rrsue….If i don’t fill my wolf tags during the Sept archery
            season I venture your way, with my .223′s ,and help you out..
            thanks
            nick

        • Jcbtick

          Hey man I just moved to the twin area I would live to hunt some wolves over near sun valley do you know where any packs of them are runnin around?

          • nick1259

            they are having a bunch of trouble at the flat top ranch above carey right now, with a kill order for 3 or 4….if they don’t kill them that would be the closest to you just go up the main road and glass . Fish creek res. is not too far for this pack to travel, and then just beyond that is Iron Bog lake and the antelope drainage…where they have killed wolves in the past. Just North west from that (up cherry creek) you drop into Copper Basin. which is huge but they have wolves there and took a couple out of Muldoon canyon last year….

            Good Luck
            nick

          • Muskrat

            Jcgtick, I live North of you in Salmon, Idaho, but the Sun Valley area should be no different. This winter, once it snows, drive the backroads and look for tracks. Get as far back into the woods as possible, away from the roads if you can. You will see tracks, finding the track makers is a lot harder. Watch for ravens and magpies to tip you off to wolf kills. If they are fresh, they may come back, or they might still be in the area.Also, talk to the local ranchers as much as possible, if they have been haveing trouble, most will welcome any help you could offer.This website has a lot of great info on how to hunt them. A lot is just flat out luck if you get a shot. So with that, GOOD LUCK TO YOU. I’ll be out there too, crossing my fingers and hopeing for a shot.

      • The First

        Yes, we understand how hard it is, if only we would just step aside and allow you to murder off all of the earths creation, so you could make 42000 before taxes and expenses.

        You’re not dying off fast enough, do the earth a favor and speed up the process, and please, take your murderous children with you as you depart the earth…

        • Grnwdsdlry

          if i had only one bullet, and i had to choose between you and a wolf, i think i would spare the wolf…

      • http://www.facebook.com/MelanieJean81 Melanie Magana

        Waaahhh your just a greedy asshole who only thinks of killing instead of more humane ways of keeping wolves from getting your precious cattle. Well guess what you took that chance when you decided to live there.

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        spontaneous abortions and high nitrate levels in Indiana drinking water
        wells located close to feedlots.

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        and fecal coliform, which can be 10 to 100 times more concentrated than
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        through manure.

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        contaminating drinking water in Walkerton, Ontario. Health authorities
        determined that the most likely source was cattle manure runoff.

        Manure from dairy cows is thought to have contributed to the disastrous Cryptosporidium
        contamination of Milwaukee’s drinking water in 1993, which killed more
        than 100 people, made 400,000 sick and resulted in $37 million in lost
        wages and productivity.

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    • KillWolvesSaveElk

      You are completely wrong,  and just like the rest of the environmentalists and liberals that come to this site to preach their opinions and bloviate, you have NO idea what you are talking about.  First off,  how are wolves beneficial to the environment?  Are you just saying that or do you have cold hard facts to back it up.  I and other hunters from wyoming, idaho, and montana do have cold hard facts.  Look at our harvest numbers in deer and elk from 1990 to present day,  nothing but decreases,  moose, deer, elk,  even black bear populations have decreased dramatically due to wolves in our area.  You have not the slightest clue how devastating wolves are to the environment.  Why the hell do you think we tried to exterminate them in the forties and fifties,  because our supposed “uneducated” relatives felt like it?  HELL NO,  they knew the devastation they caused way back when,  what difference does it make now?  Elk aren’t the only thing wolves eat either.  Elk will eat anything from field mice to elk, to deer, to even a yearling bear if they cross paths,  i shouldn’t even say eat,  i should say they just kill them because that’s what they do,  i’ve seen it.  We,  yes we, are the dominate predators in the environment, now the wolves are weaseling into our environment,  and i for one, and hundreds of other people aren’t going to have it.  

      • killWhitessavetheearth

        You, how are you beneficial to the environment? I would wager that you and your toothless, banjo picking, backwoods inbred neighbors, believe that the coyote is an over populated pest, just as you room temperature IQ’s believed of the gray wolf, which you so callously exterminated, which is why the little coyote is now so prolific!

        I look forward to the increased human exposure to prions, which thanks to you greedy deviants, is now widespread in the environment, it would be a great irony if by chance, you, and your children were to contract C/J syndrome, as a consequence of your having killed off all of the creatures that nature sent to combat the disease with, don’t you think? I can only hope you are so fortunate.

        • Jwgreenw

          look up your facts city slicker, the gray wolf was never anywhere near exerninated. they live by the thousands in canada. the people who removed the wolf from the lower 48 were back in the 1800′s, and they were incuraged to do so by the United States GOVERMENT!!! we the outdoorsmen have done more to help preserve the environment than you could ever posibly understand. like returning crop lands back to there natural state to provide better wildlife habitats. then the veggy eating hippys come in and turn it back into farm land to grow food because they think its bad to eat meat. whos hurting the enviorment then?

          whats worse! someone who says lets destroy more habitat for growing crops or someone who says lets protect the natural enviorment so we can grow wild things to shoot and eat.

          you people bitch about distroying the rainforest but have no problem about distroying our great planes…DUMBASSES!!!

      • Softballlover314

        You do realize that it isn’t entirely the fault of wolves elk are dissapearing right? sickness, loss of habitat are also contributing factors. And you’re being selfish. You’re juat angry because you have less game to hunt, so you blame the factor you can fix with your gun. You Idiot!

      • Softballlover314

        Really? They kill them for no reason? That’s stupid. And wolves don’t eat bears. That’s an idiotic idea. And they only kill things for food. Once again, you’re being a selfish baby. Grow up.

        • KillWolvesSaveElk

          Why don’t you go play softball and mind your own buisness.  I bet a hundred dollars you live back east or in california, and don’t know a damn thing about wolves,  other than they resemble a dog,  oh and you like dogs so you”re gonna come on here and mispell words call us brats.  It’s probably past your bedtime so i’m not gonna waste my breath and spit ya the facts.

        • Muskrat

          You are wrong there, wolves can and do eat bears. I have seen several pictures of bears that have been pulled from their dens and killed by wolves. When bears hibernate, it’s not like you and me when we sleep. We can be instantly wide awake if need be, bears are more like they are drugged. They are easy prey in this state. You most likely mean well, but at least try to find out what you are talking about before you start calling names. If you take the time to figgure out what a wolf realy is, you will find out your “Pet Wolf Cross” is not the same thing.

          • wolf lover180

            That’s so cool. guess bears aren’t as invincible as I thought.

          • Lily

            Actually, while bears are hibernating, they’re muscles are continually twitching so that they don’t lose any muscle mass. While I’m not questioning the fact that wolves could go after a bear in hibernation if they are determined for food, it is quite possible for a bear to wake up. They aren’t frozen for the winter, and I think if something were to attack them, they would most likely wake.
            Besides, a drugged bear could very easily swipe its paw and do some major damage. I wouldn’t say that they’re ever “easy prey”.

        • Melglid
      • wolf lover180

        Watch the “lords of nature” documentary if you want to know more about this but when wolves were taken out of Yellowstone, is ecosystem stopped functioning correctly. Elk overgrazed the acacia trees, which led to there being less songbirds, frogs, toads and beavers. more coyotes meant Pronghorn Antelope babies weren’t surviving to adulthood (Coyotes are also the animal that kills the most livestock and the overabundance of elk meant that they were grazing crops more often then they should). Wolves are known as Keystone Predators which means that if they die, then the ecosystem dies as well or becomes ‘sick’. With proper wolf management I believe that they can continue to play their crucial role in balancing the ecosystem as well as making hunters happy with more healthy elk (because no hunter wants to eat a sick elk and nobody wants to get Lyme disease which is given from deer to humans by ticks, it’s a huge problem where I come from), ranchers happy with less coyotes and elk that both cause bigger problems to them than wolves, and the people happy, because we payed a lot of money to bring wolves here and they bring in a lot of tourist dollars while they help balance the ecosystem. I would also like to make a point that management would be to lessen the affects that wolves have on game and make sure there is enough for all.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/YTGAK4JPH4VNCDAIVBL647R42Q Margaret J

       beautifully done and said!! perfect…thank u…i feel the same way…fuk all of them….

    • Muskrat

      WOW! Raceist bastard, don’t like the Chineese? Grow up.

    • Mac Olsen

      Another big-mouthed environmentalist from the urban setting, spouting off his weak-kneed bleeding hearted b.s.! Somebody who sits in Starbuck’s with his latte and waxes philosophy in a make believe world. Somebody who has never seen a wolf up close and can’t see the threat they pose. Meanwhile, the rest of us in the real world have to deal with real world issues, like controlling wolf populations that threaten livestock and big game animals. YOU’RE THE ONE WHO HAS TO CUT SHIT! YOU’RE THE ONE WHO SHOULD GROW UP AND SEE WHAT THE REALLY WORLD IS LIKE!! SO STOP SPOUTING OFF ABOUT THINGS YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND, YOU WEAK-KNEED BLEEDING HEART! COME OUT INTO THE REAL WORLD AND DEAL WITH IT LIKE IT IS!

  • Savethewolves

    What a bunch of lies. People sicken me.

    • Grnwdsdlry

      they are not lies you are just ignorant, and you refuse to believe the truth

    • realist

      You are pretty clueless.  I don’t want to shoot anything, it doesn’t make me feel good.  I can understand where you might be coming from in that respect.  I also understand the wolf population is out of control.  With more and more sightings closer to town everyday and smaller and smaller elk herds every year it’s an obvious issue.  I have zero alterior motives from a hunting or ranching perspective.  I’d just like to see our eco system in balance.  Try and see the bigger picture.  If you actually got out in to the backcountry on a regular basis to witness the effects wolves are having you might change your perspective.

    • The First

      My friend you are wasting your time here with these murderous ignorants, white folk are murderous by nature, as has been proven out beyond all doubt here in this land that they stole from my ancestors! They extirpated every animal that existed in the rocky mountain west, everyone of them! Virtually every so-called “big-game species” had to be re-introduced. They joyeously murdered all of the great buffalo herds, some 60,000,000, many of them just for the tongue, often leaving virtually the entire animal to rot in the sun.

      White folk are not men, they are murderous spirits, who take great joy in raping, and plundering the earth. But soon they will be departing it forever, they are so greedy and murderous that they are like a fire burning, they consume even their own unborn, they are a mistake of nature, and anyone who looks can see that they are dwindling, a great, and joyous day it will be, when they finally consume even themselves, and that they are doing right before our eyes…

      • Jwgreenw

        “the white man”! so your tactic is to change this into something about race? i do beleive you are right in one aspect humans are over populated and really are about to meet a horable die off. but we still need to feed the masses or we might consume our own babies. hey i got an idea lets limit preditors so we’re not loosing livestock, that should help keep us from consuming eachother for a while!  hahahahahahhaahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahhahahahahahahahahahaahhahahhahahahhahaha!!! good god your an idiot!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/YTGAK4JPH4VNCDAIVBL647R42Q Margaret J

         i love what u have said about the wolves…very true in everything and very well spoken!! i love it…..i totally agree with everything that u rote….i would get so deep into this that if i ever got wth a man that loves to hunt wolves anf enjoys killing their families and bagging them,,,i would leave their nasty murderous asses to the streets….I WOULDNT EVEN DARE MARRY ONE EITHER..great job o speaking ur mind…

  • Jwgreenw

    i am a rancher with a natural resource degree, i work for the blm and love the outdoors. my job deals with cows and protecting the range lands. i love to hunt mainly because it is a great supply of food through the year. i believe i have a fair understanding of both sides of the argument here. wolves eat cows…yes, wolves eat wildlife…yes. is it natural…yes. do we as humans want something that is going to eat the same thing we eat…NO! WHY because WE are the dominate preditor. what does a dominate preditor do when it moves into a new inviorment, we eliminate the compatition. it happen ALL THE TIME! we took the place of wolves and we are upset that we are being pushed aside by our own kind to let another preditor take the place that we worked so hard to acheive. oh heres an interesting fact: it was the USA government that pushed for the removal of the wolf in the west even putting up a bounty for every last wolf. you want to get mad blame the gov. and if you think it was a good idea to bring them back them we should get together and push for the return of wolves, black bears and cougers on the east coast. because historicaly they were there in equal or greater numbers then the west! and if you think thats a bad idea then you might have a slight understanding of what we are mad about!!!

  • buck

    People keep saying the wolves are keeping the elk and deer herdes under control keeping them from taking over.Well thats BULL SHIT.just this spring me and my brother hiked up in the winter range of the elk and deer and looked for antlers.we dident see more than 40 to 60 elk and only 20 deer yet 20 years ago there was herdes of 300 hundred to 400 hundred elk ever mile down the 14 miles of canyon and the last 15 years the wolvs moved in and the elk and deer numbers just started to drop in huge numbers ranchers started loseing percents of calves not just one or two to sickness . 5 10 15 TWENTY percent even on the big ranches and thats 20.000.00 bucks and greater in to the WOLF SHIT and un countless numbers of elk and deer. know if you had your paychech for the mounth given to you and you owed the person your working for the next 6 months work because a wolf you saved came and ate your bosses cattle wouldent you be pist . But guess what you cant ever get your money back and you will starve till the next year when the next set of calves come home and you will finaly have have somthing to sell…….But guess what happends you get kicked out of your home because the wolves ate 20% of your wages and terned it into wolf shit. 
    thats how we feel

  • Realist

    I’m not a hunter, and would consider myself an environmentalist.  It doesn’t take a genius to see that the wolves have definitely had a huge effect on the number of elk, and that they are rapidly breeding.  I spend a lot of time skiing, hiking and biking around the Montana backcountry and its pretty obvious elk numbers are down and wolf numbers are up.  I am so damn sick of cause of the week bleeding heart “environmentalists” that fail to see the bigger picture.  It’s not your pet dog these guys are shooting.  Hunting wolves is necessary to keep the eco system in balance.  Either people are going to hunt them or fwp workers are going to gas pups in their dens.  If elk were a little furrier and cuter these “environmentalist” kooks would be signing a different tune.  Open your eyes morons trying to protect the wolves from all hunting is not helping the environment you claim to love.  Like I said I have zero interest in hunting anything.  I just see the bigger picture i.e. elk herds in my area drastically shrinking.  40 elk where I used to see 140.  Why don’t you idiots go protest people shooting and gassing prairie dogs.  I’ll tell you why, they don’t look like “man’s best friend”.  I bet most of the pro wolf people don’t even live here and if they do they don’t spend much time in backcountry.    

    • The First

      No white man is a hunter, all of you are killers of life, and you are consumed by greed for the money. The earth itself is sick of your murderous spirits, you foul things cannot kill yourselves off fast enough to please me.

    • Muskrat

      Well said. I live in Idaho and have seen the same things you are describeing. It’s even worse here, at last count (if you can believe the numbers) Idaho had quite a few more wolves than Montana. Lucky for us, our Fish & Game dept. has finaly decided to do something about it. I am a hunter, and a trapper, and an enviromentalist. I think everyone that cares about the outdoors is an enviomentalist, none of us want to see it ruined. We are NOT all extremeists. Those are the ones that are ruining it for all of us, wolves included. As long as there is a hunting/trapping season and numbers are kept under control, we can have it all, wolves,elk, deer…… stop the hunt, you hurt the wolves. They not only overpopulate and run out of food, but you piss off the law abideing hunters. If there is a season, most will play by the rules, stop the season again and they will do their best to wipe the wolves out……………….legal or not. Right or wrong, it’s the way it is. There are a lot of “fence sitters”, enough games, let’s do this right.

      • wolf lover180

        Thank you Muskrat, for your moderate (versus extremist) view on wolves and the way they should be managed. I am sick and tired of going on every video and website about wolves and seeing all these people with such polarized views fling mud at each other and try to tear each other down. Like you, I like the idea that there can be a wolf hunting season while wolves play their crucial role to balance the ecosystem. I am seeing the HORRIBLE effects that not having predators causes, which can be avoided in places like Idaho if hunters and ranchers learn the critical role wolves play in the ecosystem (They even HELP farmers when they stop crops being destroyed by deer (or elk) and mice and lower the populations of the animals that really kill a lot of cattle (Coyotes, Coywolves (who live on the east coast) and Feral Dogs) and if the “Eco nuts” learn that if wolves are to stay in America forever, there needs to be a hunting season to satisfy hunters and farmers.

        However, I do have concerns about your states wolf limit (300 wolves) because it doesn’t give a lot of wiggle room if something like a disease were to come. Maybe it’s because I like Minnesota’s plan (400 wolves for a 3000 wolf population) which gives A LOT of wiggle room if something happens and because this hunt does make it seem like you want your wolves destroyed. I know that I don’t live in Idaho, I am just saying what I believe is right (as well as the fact that if you make environmental groups angry, they can make you re-list your wolves with a lawsuit and I am sure no one wants that) so please if you disagree with my views, please tell me nicely.

        • truthseeker

          If there are only 328 wolves left in the state of Wyoming, who gets a permit and who doesn’t?

          • Muttbuster

            It would have to be put to a draw system and that would probably be based on the number of wolves and how fast they would be replaced by reproduction. Seeing how they seem to reproduce fairly fast I would think that it would be around 10 to 15 percent, but that is a guess.

        • Muskrat

          Wolf lover 180, I don’t dissagree at all. Thank you for not being one of the unreasonable. I think Idaho’s wolf hunting numbers will go down as the wolf numbers get to a more reasonable number. The anti’s have had this whole thing blocked for so long now that our hunting is awfull. Drastic times take drastic measures, I think once the deer/elk/moose numbers come back again the wolf limit will be less. Right now we have a real problem with there being too many. Idaho is a fairly large state, but southern Idaho (about a third of the state) has few if any wolves. The 1,500 or so that are here are realy in a fairly small area. I work as a horseback hunting guide in the fall. I just got back this last Sunday from a week long Elk hunt. All week we saw a total of 3 elk, and 4 deer. There realy isn’t much left here, the wolves will still need to eat, so they have no choice but the rancher’s livestock. It’s not fair to the wolves, hunters, ranchers, or the game animals. The anti’s are tring to do what they think is good and right, but they don’t understand that they have done more harm than good. Now the people of Idaho, the game animals, and the wolves have to pay the price, not the anti’s. It’s sad really……

      • truthseeker

        Many Americans, even as they view the extermination of a species as
        morally anathema, struggle to grasp the tangible effects of the loss of
        wolves. It turns out that, far from being
        freeloaders on the top of the food chain, wolves have a powerful effect
        on the well-being of the ecosystems around them — from the survival of
        trees and riverbank vegetation to, perhaps surprisingly, the health of
        the populations of their prey.

        An example of this can be found in Wyoming’s Yellowstone National Park, where wolves were virtually wiped out in the 1920s and reintroduced in the ’90s. Since the wolves have come back, scientists have noted an unexpected improvement in many of the park’s degraded stream areas.

        Stands of aspen and other native vegetation, once decimated by
        overgrazing, are now growing up along the banks. This may have something
        to do with changing fire patterns, but it is also probably because elk
        and other browsing animals behave differently when wolves are around.
        Instead of eating greenery down to the soil, they take a bite or two,
        look up to check for threats, and keep moving. The greenery can grow
        tall enough to reproduce.

        Beavers, despite being on the wolf’s menu, also benefit when their
        predators are around. The healthy vegetation encouraged by the presence
        of wolves provides food and shelter to beavers. Beavers in turn go on to
        create dams that help keep rivers clean and lessen the effects of
        drought. Beaver activity also spreads a welcome mat for thronging
        biodiversity. Bugs, amphibians, fish, birds and small mammals find the
        water around dams to be an ideal habitat.

        So the beavers keep the rivers from drying up while, at the same time,
        healthy vegetation keeps the rivers from flooding, and all this
        biological interaction helps maintain rich soil that better sequesters
        carbon — that stuff we want to get out of the atmosphere and back into
        the ground. In other words, by helping to maintain a healthy ecosystem,
        wolves are connected to climate change: without them, these landscapes
        would be more vulnerable to the effects of those big weather events we
        will increasingly experience as the planet warms.

        Scientists call this sequence of impacts down the food chain a “trophic cascade.” The wolf is connected to the elk is connected to the aspen is connected to the beaver. Keeping these connections going ensures healthy, functioning ecosystems, which in turn support human life.

        Another example is the effect of sea otters on kelp, which provides food
        and shelter for a host of species. Like the aspen for the elk, kelp is a
        favorite food of sea urchins. By hunting sea urchins, otters protect the vitality of the kelp
        and actually boost overall biodiversity. Without them, the ecosystem
        tends to collapse; the coastal reefs become barren, and soon not much
        lives there.

        Unfortunately, sea otters are in the cross hairs of a conflict
        equivalent to the “wolf wars.” Some communities in southeast Alaska want
        to allow the hunting of sea otters in order to decrease their numbers
        and protect fisheries. But the rationale that eliminating the predator
        increases the prey is shortsighted and ignores larger food-web dynamics.
        A degraded ecosystem will be far less productive over all.

        Having fewer fish wouldn’t just hurt fishermen: it would also endanger
        the other end of the trophic scale — the phytoplankton that turn
        sunshine into plant material, and as every student of photosynthesis
        knows, create oxygen and sequester carbon. In lakes, predator fish keep
        the smaller fish from eating all the phytoplankton, thus sustaining the
        lake’s rate of carbon uptake.

        Around the planet, large predators are becoming extinct at faster rates
        than other species. And losing top predators has an outsize effect on
        the rate of loss of many other species below them on the food chain as
        well as on the plant life that is so important to the balance of our
        ecosystems.

        http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=4z5Q7LhI+KVBjmEgFdYACPLKh239P3pg8xyEutREzrGj5Yyb5MF6xMQcSQhhSwefy8lxigHhsixJNPAw6CIzI/5SSSdLlQFs/XdX2LxytCvl2H/yLxKD10JzhTEwqtoPFJ/XbxOTYxb3tYs8IbwbGA==&campaign_id=129&instance_id=21652&segment_id=39709&user_id=ac68c18710d0962d34a001e39b40081c

        • Muttbuster

          e some good points in your comment but you also omitted a few things about beavers, they too when left unchecked can wreak havoc on the environment. When they build too many or too big of a dam they have been known to actually destroy areas and even pollute the waters they call home with girardia which when consumed can kill humans.I like your points but think if you supply a few more facts on the flip side you would sound like you did thorough research and didn’t lean so far towards the environmentalist side of things. I agree that the otters should not be hunted to extinction, but do feel for the fishermen. I am not familiar with otter numbers, but if their numbers are too high it would make sense to bring them down to a healthy level. My uncle is a biologist who worked on many studies of many different species from insects to elk with his major in marine biology. He used to work at one of the universities in New Mexico in Albuquerque. He has some good books out. His name is Manuel Molles, he might be a good one to consult on the otters. One more thing, technically global warming has been around since the end of the last Ice Age and most biologist agree that it is just a cycle that naturally occurs here on earth and there really isn’t much we can do to stop it. e can do to stop it. O

        • Kill a Wolf, Save 100 Elk

          It’s funny your spouting the “Everybody helps Everybody” rant. I just read a report late last year about the same thing you’re talking about in yellowstone national park. To summarize the drawn out report, “Wolves kill all the elk, therefore elk won’t eat every aspen shoot, the aspen shoots will grow into trees, which creates habitat for yellow warblers, and gives beavers something to eat”. Well just about a month ago i read an article about the park asking for public input about shutting down a road in the lamar valley because the creek had over flown,(From Beavers), and had flooded the road and made road banks cave and sluff off, and they needed to fix it. so i think it’s funny how you say every animal has to play a part, but when one animal is completely dominate and kills everything off, the world turns to chaos, and ultimately, the beavers just destroy everything from the warbler’s nests to the aspen trees, that these so-called “Great” wolves helped to create. So tell the park to leave the god damn road alone, and fucking worry about something else. The park is supposed to be “Prestine” habitat, or so they say, even though the only thing left in there is wolves and beavers. So don’t touch it, because you wanted the wolves, you can deal with the beavers.

    • http://www.facebook.com/MelanieJean81 Melanie Magana

      Wolves were here way before you and the environment was just fine. Too think any different is just moronic. Stop encroaching on their land and maybe they won’t have a harder time finding food. And maybe if stupid white men wouldn’t have hunted so many species to extinction there would be more animals you say there are so very little of.

      • http://wwww.huntwolves.com/ Hunt Wolves

        Are you serious? Stop encroaching on their land? Most of us who promote the management and conservation of game species like wolves, elk, and other species are the few left in this country that actually own land that hasn’t been sold off to be turned into a sub-division or a mini mall. The ranches and farms that we own provide much better habitat for wildlife than the paved urban wasteland you live in. We actually live in the few areas where it’s actually possible to sustain wildlife populations, and we see very clearly the effect an unchecked wolf population has on other species.
        To assume nature can balance itself out without human intervention, while ignoring the fact you live on a planet with 7 billion humans is
        naive to say the least. Without human intervention and management at the local, state, and federal level there would be no wildlife left. Some day maybe you’ll realize that hunters and ranchers aren’t the enemy of wildlife populations. We actually do more to promote and protect the responsible conservation of animals and habitat than anyone else.

        Why don’t you do something more constructive with your time than argue with hunters on a hunting website. How about you start at the local level and try to stop the urban sprawl in California where you live. Why don’t you write your state senators and urge them to reintroduce wolves back into California.
        Stop tying to “fix” the few places in this country that are
        actually still fine, and work on what’s wrong your own backyard first.

        • Russell

          Why don’t you sprawl in a moose farm? By your logic it’s okay for us to kill each other. If dogs are trained to kill like this, WHAT does this make them?

      • Mac Olsen

        This is a comment from an ignorant, urban dweller, who doesn’t have any appreciation for the damage that wolves can do to big game and livestock. You’ve probably never encountered a wolf directly, either. I have, and it’s unnerving to see them face to face. They are vicious, aggressive animals. And as for, “Wolves were here before you and the environment was just fine,” well guess what, humans are now firmly entrenched on this continent and it’s not an easy balance to keep humans and wolves out of each other’s spheres and domains. I don’t want wolves eradicated, but when they threaten humans, livestock or big game, I want their numbers reduced to manageable levels, accordingly. One more thing, you owe every “stupid white man” an apology for that insult. It’s obvious you need to be educated about hunting. For instance, hunters are conservationists, which may be a shock to you as an ignorant, urban dweller, but that’s the way it is. Without hunting, animal populations would explode out of control and they have to be managed. That makes hunting a legitimate tool for conservation. So, get your facts straight before you go mouthing off about things you don’t understand!

        • http://www.facebook.com/george.pacurian George Pacurian

          well said.melanie hasn’t a clue!!

          • Mac Olsen

            Thanks George!

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Diana-Rosalind-Trimble/674501149 Diana Rosalind Trimble

          I think it is very anthropomorphizing of you to call wolves, or any predator “vicious and aggressive”. Those are human personality traits, whereas animals are just following instincts and do not act out of malice or spite. It is also true that humans and wolves have formed extremely strong bonds and wolves have protected human infants, so your generalization is false anyway. The truth that you, and many others on here, are dancing around, but that has been pointed out by some more truthful and insightful posters (like the honest food hunters who disagree with sport hunting of big game) is as follows: you get kicks from killing wolves. Everything else is just blah blah blah justification. Why is it up to you or any other human to manage the elk or deer population anyway? Other people on here have said that a wolf is no more important than any other animal, well if so, then that goes for your domesticated sheep or cow too. Build better enclosures perhaps. Humanity is already destroying the planet in a million other ways. If you care so much about species dwindling then perhaps you could devote your energies to preventing a coalmine or highway from being built through a wildnerness area, stop privatizing the open land into luxury ranches for rich folk, and bulldozing forests to build Walmarts. The reduction of wildlife habitatis the real problem here. But you don’t really care about that. This whole site and its fans put out this “gonna bag me a wolfskin!” gleeful, deliberately provocative and macho tone. Then, certain individuals such as yourself turn around and try to strike a rational pose, saying oh you ignorant urbanite liberals, we’re just giving mother nature a helping hand! Uh uh. And you dig killing wolves for fun. Bottom line, you are not fooling anyone! And no I am not a vegan animal rights activist and yes I eat wild game and live in the countryside.

          • Mac Olsen

            So, Diana, AKA BITCH, you think
            you know it all! You can just generalize me as being an outright wolf hater.
            Well, BITCH! Think again! I don’t support the outright eradication of wolves. I
            have a respect for wolves as predators. But when they decimate livestock
            populations or big game populations, then they have to be brought under
            control, and if that means that some of them have to be shot, THEN SO BE IT!
            Also, I bet you have never had a close encounter with a wolf. One day, 11 years
            ago, I was driving up a highway in northern Manitoba late at night and I saw a
            wolf coming from the opposite direction. As I passed it, I had the feeling it
            would have turned and attacked me, had it been given the opportunity. IT LOOKED
            VERY AGGRESSIVE AS I WAS PASSING IT! That was an unnerving experience. HAVE YOU
            EVER HAD A CLOSE ENCOUNTER WITH A WOLF? If you haven’t THEN SHUT THE HELL UP
            BECAUSE YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT! Where I live in Alberta now,
            there have been lots of wolf attacks on livestock and the owners lose thousands
            and thousands of dollars per animal – in effect, their investments and
            livelihood – when than that happens. So, I think about and have a respect for
            their livelihood. WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO PAY THE LIVESTOCK OWNERS FOR THEIR
            LOSSES IN ORDER TO LET THE WOLVES RUN FAST AND FREE ON THEIR LIVESTOCK? ARE YOU
            WILLING TO HAND YOUR MONEY TO THEM IN COMPENSATION WHEN THAT HAPPENS? I doubt
            it! Admitted, I haven’t harvested a wolf, and I want to get one or two in the
            future. But I’m not going to go out and kill every one that I see, if I do get
            the opportunity to hunt them. I have shot three wolves, one each year for the
            last three years. But they were presenting a threat to the landowner’s
            chickens, cats, etc. I didn’t go out after them aggressively as you
            stereotypically would say about me. I only got them because I was in the right
            place at the right time and I didn’t use a call of any kind to lure them in
            either. I HAVEN’T GOT PILES AND PILES OF COYOTE PELTS IN MY COLLECTION, AS YOU
            WOULD INSINUATE ABOUT ME! Oh, and as for the environment, I support Ducks
            Unlimited Canada every year, to preserve wetlands. I also go to Ducks Unlimited
            banquets every year, to support their fundraising efforts. Also, there’s an
            organization here in Alberta called the Alberta Conservation Association that
            works with landowners and companies to buy sections of private land for
            preservation and recreational use. I have found some of these facilities in my
            area and had the chance to go through them, and I think it’s great that they’re
            available for the general public to access. And I’m sure that, wherever you’re
            located, there are similar programs or people and organizations that would help
            to buy such lands for everyone to enjoy and use – for posterity. Also, keep in
            mind – HUNTERS ARE CONSERVATIONISTS TOO! We just do it in a less fanatical way
            compared to rabid environmental groups like Green Peace! So, Diana – AKA BITCH
            - GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE! YOU’RE THE FOOL! YOU’RE THE ONE WHO IS CLOSED MINDED
            ABOUT THE WOLF ISSUE! TAKE OFF YOUR BLINDERS AND EDUCATE YOURSELF IN THE REAL
            WORLD – AND NOT JUST OFFER RHETORIC SITTING IN A STARBUCK’S COFFEE SHOP OVER A
            LATTE.

            CASE CLOSED!

          • Brian

            Oorah, Mac!!

          • http://twitter.com/macolsen Mac Olsen

            Thanks, Brian! Appreciated!

          • bonehead

            come to Montana you show me any wolves that act like you described and I will not shoot them!

      • Muskrat

        The wolves did do just fine,except in the down cycles. “The balance of Nature” is a teeter Totter. Feast or famine, boom or bust, times of plenty and starvation. Man trys to keep the balance closer to the middle for all wildlife. That’s why we have hunting seasons, wolves do not. Wolves hunt year ’round, thats how they make their liveing. It dosn’t make them evil, it dosn’t make them noble, it makes them wolves. If there is too many they will kill off the other wildlife, starve down to nothing, and that gives the prey species a chance to come back and start the cycle over again. With the help of man, that dosn’t happen. We help keep numbers in balance so there is allways enough deer and elk,as well as predators. When numbers are low,we have shorter hunting seasons, higher numbers, longer seasons. You can’t stop the wolves from hunting without removeing some of them. Like it or not, man is here to stay, get used to it. Automobiles kill more deer and elk year ’round than hunters do. If you want to make a difference, stop driveing your car…..helps with pollution too!

        • somsai

          Muskrat I especially like the part about removing some of the wolves, but I have to correct a misperception. There is no balance of nature, none, google it. Nature is in flux and sometimes it remains for a while in equilibrium but balance of nature was a long enduring myth no longer taught in University level Ecology departments. Predators can and do sometimes eat all the prey. Mankind manages wildlife for whatever outcome we wish.

          • Muskrat

            That is what I ment by a “teeter totter” it balances only breifly in between extremes. You are right, there is no true “balance”,not for any real length of time anyway. Thank you for your comment.

        • http://www.facebook.com/fduppy Joel Springman

          Don’t deer cause a lot of human deaths every year, too?

          • wolf lover180

            Yeah, they kill about 100 in auto crashes every year

          • wolf lover180

            Mostly in the eastern united states ( which also has the highest rates of Lyme disease)where they are overpopulated due to the fact that there are no predators like wolves to keep the numbers low.

          • Brian

            Wolf lover, Had a brother who lived in eastern united states. The reason for so many deer, is the over breeding and populating of fur huggers!! Stay out of the woods and promote deer hunting!!! He said fur huggers would come rite in to the field/woods if they knew hunters were present and screw up there hunts!!!

      • somsai

        Actually I was here before wolves. People like to watch them because they are like their dog, and I’m ok with that, they should h ave a special place for wolf watchers to ooh and aww like Yellowstone, and leave less suburban places alone.

      • Anders

        Hey Melanie Maybe you should leave this country since your not a Native American!! you dumb Bitch they reIntroduced Canadian wolves where they never were before. Wolf season opens Monday morning and I will be thinking about you when I Crunch this big beautiful black wolf I’ve been watching all summer :-)

        • backcountry

          Anders- You are an asshole, and the epitome of redneck angry ignorance that turns so many people off about hunting. Your remark demonstrates that you kill for the sake of killing, and nothing else. Without your big gun, you are nothing but a stupid redneck.Too bad we don’t have licenses to hunt stupid rednecks like you, because we sure have too many of them. I’d be the first in line for that license.

      • Mac Olsen

        See my response to Diana, Melanie!

      • bonehead

        Melanie you arr a moron pull your head from your puppeteers ass and see the bigger picture here these wolves were NEVER native here!! The wolves they put here are canadian timber grey wolves, what use to be here was the rocky mountain grey! The canadian grey is twice the size of the rocky and eat and kill three times as much. We as hunters and conservationists would have had no problem with the reintroduction of wolves if they would have planted the correct species to begin with!! Now we have to deal with morons like you who think they actually know what they’re talking about when instead they are only saying what they’re puppeteer tell them to! The sad thing is your probably to ignorant to actually look up the facts

    • Lily

      In Minnesota the moose are being pushed further and further north, because it’s too dangerous for them to live as far south as they used to. But it’s not because of any predators cutting down their numbers.
      It’s dangerous, because of the deer. If the moose were further south, they have run a much greater risk of getting brainworm from whitetail deer. On the Michigan DNR website, they even state that it has been found in the elk throughout it’s range there.
      I have no doubt that predators such as the wolf are affecting elk population, but it’s quite possible that diseases such has brainworm are pushing your elk further and further north, just as it is with moose from both Minnesota and Michigan.

    • Wisconsinhunter

      Bravo to a non hunter who understands this!!

    • Anders Rae

      Thank you, most people view the “Outdoors” through the glass of a windshield, and then spit stupid shit out they no nothing about, I live here in Jackson the wolves are destroying our critters!! Hope people like eating Geese and Wolves, when the dollar crashes!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/YTGAK4JPH4VNCDAIVBL647R42Q Margaret J

    u are a cold blooded killer towards innocent wolves..they have to eat just like us humans..u have no morals and compassion towards these beautiful animals and no wonder they are going extinct from murderous assholes like u!!   if u gout and hunt them for kill ,,then bag them like u say in ur post,,then what ever u do to them should be done to u…better YET,,,TAKE A SNIPER TO UR BRAIN ,,BLOW UR BRAINS OUT AND DISINTEGRATE UR  BODY WITH PURE ACID….NO EVIDENCE OF UR BODY… these wolves have families and babies of their own also looking to survive for food!!!!

  • Softballlover314

    This is awful. Just because there are tenthousand doesn’t mean that you can start hunting! And it isn’t entirely the fault of wolves that there are less elk! Do you actually have ANY evedince on this matter? I doubt it. And if you start hunting wolves again, you’ll land them back on the endangered species list in a year tops. You can’t do that! It shouldn’t be allowed! And farmers didn’t stand by! If they did, they were idiots. They should have put up better fences or done something to protect their livestock. This whole page is a lie! You probably didn’t research anything. You’re just overly selfish. You love hunting and decide to hunt first chance they take something off the endangered species list. My advce? Stop being selfish and actually think with whatever limited knowledge you have, rather than just bein an overgrown spoiled child. This page makes me SICK!

    • Sweetfreedomgirl

      Do you have evidence that the wolves are not in large part responsible for the decreasing numbers of elk and other wildlife?  No, I doubt it. And wolves will NOT be brought down to numbers that will put them back on the endangered species list…that is why they call it “wildlife management.” The purpose it to keep all species at healthy levels for the sake of all wildlife and their habitat. We cannot allow uncontrolled reproduction of some animals without negatively affecting others. It is called balance. My guess is that you are the one who has not done your research. I also guess that you are a child based on the nature of your comments. If you don’t like the site, stay off of it.  Just saying.

  • Softballlover314

    And also, wolves are far better humans than a bunch of humans.First, they actually know the risks of overhunting, unlike you highschool drop outs, who would kill off the whole species of elk for fun. Second, they don’t ty to kill off a different species so they can have more game, like you stupid, selfish, spoiled people. You’re only doing this so you can have more hunting fun. This website is a bunch of crap. If wolves thought the same way we did, They’d be killing US off. All these lies! You make me want to throw up you stupid selfish brats!

    • Tps

      Listen I’m a hunter of deer and the fact is the ones
      Who truly care are us we don’t hold picket signs and just talk
      But we make sure that when we hunt we take are limits that
      We are allowed and we pay for the land and wildlife through
      Tags and licenses to keep the population at a good number.

  • WyoHunter

    I’m not sure you have any clue what is going on out west.  The Yellowstone elk herd is being decimated by the gray wolf.  This is on top of the moose population that has been reduced by gray wolves as well.  No, wolves have no idea of the risks of overhunting because…they’re wolves!  They do not have this type of reasoning…idiot!  Wolves will kill whatever is available to survive…plain and simple.  I hope I can get a whole pack in site outside of any “protected” zones so I can annihilate every last one.  Nothing would give me greater pleasure than to call the Game & Fish to let them know they can subtract 8 from their mortality quota.

    • Madravenspeak

      You are idiots.  Human serial killers kill more ungulates – more deer and moose and elk than any wolf ever would per capita.  YOU are decimating the herds with your killing obsessions.  Wolves are not destroying this earth and other animals – you are – and for fun.  Killing is not conservation – it never was and never will be.  Wake up – you are destroying all that is wild and natural and balanced for your farming obsession of having high herds to kill for your own serial killing idiocy.

  • DogLogic

    SweetFreeAndSoftBallLover…..  
    No we are not dropouts..   …Yes we have hard data to support the Facts. Wolves adversely affect the population of every edible living thing within their range until such a time that they reach a maximum sustainable population. These are facts- they are an Apex predator..  and make no mistake, if it were not for our mechanical and tech advances they would decimate a human herd as well.  They do not tolerate competition, they do not Care that you think they are cute and fluffy.  This population will continue to explode until they reach a point that it becomes easier to pick off kids in yellowstone than it is to take down calf elk…..  Then, and only then will common sense overrule your bleeding heart illinformed blathering.     ……And this is coming from a Registered Democrat with Dual Master’s in Wildlife Behavior and Zoology.   

    • DogLogic

       http://www.thesudburystar.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1518746

      ….if you dont think it can happen here..   Standby..  under current pop number increases.. we are only about 2-4 years from “the dingo’s got my baby”

    • Madravenspeak

      That is such garbage.  Fearmongering ignorance.  Wolves do not attack kids or humans – period.  Unlike the idiot humans who demonize them to kill them relentlessly in the cruellest and most insane ways.  It is human population that is continuing to explode and eat everything in sight or out of sight – kill the oceans, destroy ten thousand species to extinction a year (unprecedented and faster than the last mass extinction – all human caused), destroy and overfish oceans, pollute water systems, desertify farm land with overgrazing and hoarding of billions of animals for slaughterhouse predation by humans ( no wolf would hoard billions of animals in concentration camp conditions), empty our ancient aquifers (again – for consuming cattle) – no wolf would hunt to put skins on floors and heads on walls.  We have a HUMAN ANIMAL PROBLEM – that is the species that needs to be controlled, managed and to EVOLVE.  Fat Chance.

      • Muskrat

        You are right, people are scum that should be reduced in numbers. Why don’t you set an example and kill yourself??

    • D Javis

      Man is an invasive species in this scenario. I’m not sure what gives humans the right to move into a territory and claim it as their own in complete disregard for the native species. Sharing the planet with native species should be a consideration. They were there far longer than we were. And, this coming for a registered Republican and rancher. There are alternatives to all out slaughter of the wolves, such as playing recordings of the howls of Alphas during peak hunting time and providing easy access to alternative food supplies. I’ll gladly lay out a carcass or two a few times a month on the edge of my property to keep the wolves from my herd – it works, and it makes both of us good neighbors to each other. The latter is especially effective in the winters when wolves have a hard time finding prey and takes advantage of their opportunistic feeding nature.

      • http://wwww.huntwolves.com Hunt Wolves

        Considering there aren’t many cattle ranches in Pittsburg, and certainly no wolves, I would have to contest the validity of your claim. Nice try.

        • DogLogic

          HuWo- I am from Pittsburgh, …im not sure where “rancher” D Javis is from… but the fact that I dont own a tract of western land and i dont have a wild wolf within hundreds of miles of me- Does not mean i am ignorant to the realities of what the species is capable of- And to D J- Man may be Invasive, but tell me where on earth we are Not invasive? ..please tell me where our natural habitat is so i can do the right thing, move and stay there. Are you are arguing that we should be considered equals? Yes, Our population is expanding- that is an entirely different argument, what we are talking about is the RE-Introduction and resulting explosion of wolf population in areas that People live and make a living, and in places that eco-systems had previously stabilized. Should we have over-colonized and wiped out wolves hundreds of years ago… perhaps not… But what was done is what was done.. Now we have compounded that folly by dropping in a species, and letting them expand relatively unchecked to this point. Clearly…. mom didnt teach you “two wrongs dont make a right” Hunting- (….and perhaps even eventual trapping seasons) is the only valid way to help control a wolf population- …..and even then, in this political climate…. i have doubts that it will ever be possible to effectively manage them again. A problem canada has been struggling with for years. We will never again see a systematic extermination of wolves like in the white mans great push west…. and so In truth.. The present day reality is, We cant manage wolves.. we can only hope to minimize the damage that will be done.

          • Muskrat

            Again, well said. Thank you.

    • Muskrat

      I’m with you on this…..except the Democrat part! (jokeing realy) I vote for the guy that lies the best. You can’t realy believe either side. The “balance of nature” is a teeter totter, theres times of plenty, and times of famine. hunter’s help to keep the balance closer to the center, even if the anti’s don’t think so. People put themselves up above the animals. True the smartest Chimp still can’t build a computer, or send a rocket to the moon, but we are still animals and a part of nature. Man has sort of removed himself from the wild, but the wild still thrives in many of us…..meet the hunters.

  • Jcbtick

    Does anyone have any tips on trapping wolves. I’m planning on trying it this season but not sure what to use for attractant.

    • Jwgreenw

      i helped the state trapper here in idaho trap one. its really simple…

      first is location; he told me and my brother that wolves like to travel on trails and roads so if you know of an area with lots of wolves find a less used back road and set up there.

      for an attractant the trapper was using wolf or coyote shit! yes really, shit! the reason being that the wolf will instinctivly want to smell the shit to see who was resently there . he also used fresh kill calf bones and burried it under durt. the wolf will snell the bone and want to dig it up thus stepping in your trap (i assume your using a snap trap?) also set you attractant in a place were the wolf is nearly forced to step on your trap, against a hill or between two logs. make it so when he walks up to sniff what ever it is, he steps directly on the trap.

      next is the trap its self. if you are using a simple snap trap you have to bury it under the soil or cover it with pine needles or something. if the wolf can see the trap he wont go near it. the best way to keep the trap ready to snap even though it is under durt is to cover the trigger with a peace of plastic or sandwich bag, that is to insure that debree does not fall under it and dissable the trap.

      finnaly there is you…you have to do everything within your power to keep your smell down. ware sent cover while setting the trap, use gloves, and as the state trapper told us “dont spit, shit, fart, or piss” within 100yards of your trapps. leave nothing vissible! no trash!

      thats all there really is to it, and i know for a fact it works! we cought a wolf useing the shit attractant, he was trapped by a back leg, trapper said he must have been trying to piss on the shit and got snapped!

      • Jwgreenw

        opps! sorry dont cover it with Pine needles or grass! that was one of the things the trapper told us NOT to do because it will allow the wolf to slip from your trap! that would be bad!!!

        • Jcbtick

          Cool thank you. I’m hoping to get out and set up traps when the time comes hope it will work well want to kill couple of them this year.

  • Lupo..

    I don’t even know why this site can exist.. It’s horrible that people kill things for no reasons.. If one of your family is killed, would you laugh? i don’t think so.. brainless people i think..

    • Jwgreenw

      ive killed a lot of animals but never for no reason! maybe you should read some of the reasons why we want to kill some of the wolves off befor you start crying about why this web site exist.

    • somsai

      If you can’t tell the difference between a pack of wolves and your family you have more issues than a misplaced sense of animal “rights”.

  • somsai

    The anti hunting web site Wildlife News, recently figured out that with the Private Land tags starting July 1st, Idaho will have a legal hunting season going on somewhere in the state, all year long.

  • Madravenspeak

    Serial killers come in all aberrant animal species – but none so much as the human animal.  Wolves are not destroying the climate, drilling the fragile ocean ecosystems, acidifying oceans with climate change, hoarding billions of animals for slaughterhouses for human consumption.  They are neither obese nor killing obsessed.  Hunters are no more.  There are just serial killers who are killing obsessed, killing the last of our wildlife as human meat consumption destroys the rest of the world.  Of course, hunters do not read – so how would they know (except the temperatures across the country, the deluges in Florida, the power outages in the east coast, the unprecedented wildfires in Colorado (also destroying hundreds of thousands of innocent wildlife due to human caused climate change.) 
    We do not have a wolf problem – we have an unconscious human overpopulation problem – we need to manage human population not wolf populations.  Wolves are exactly the opposite of the hunter demonization.  Regal, loyal, family centered, restrained (no attacks on humans – really just want to stay away from such a violent, capricious, ignorant species).

    • KillWolvesSaveElk

      You are absolutely wrong,  and you yourself should do the rest of american society a favor, and just end your life yourself.  You come to these sites and preach your blaitent beleifs that have no thought or research or facts put behind it and think we are going to agree with you.  You think you are the “Elite”, earth child, and that you shouldn’t be killed but the rest of the human population should be because you think you help the environment as you sit in your condo in Barbabdoes somewhere typing this.  You are a FUCKING waste of oxygen.  You have absolutely no idea how much devastation these wolves cause us western states like Montana, Idaho, and Wyoming.  You are one of Ted Turner’s minions, and i garuntee you are a member of the wildlands project or some other far left organization that think animals should rule the world.  Just a fun fact for ya,  as stated in the bible,  ” Humans shall have complete and total domain over every other creature on earth, and shall manage these creatures as so.”  You see,  even GOD, our creator, said we have complete and total domain over every other animal on the face of this earth.  We are the top of the food chain,  and shall remain so.   What really sucks for you is you are a human too,  kind of funny isn’t it.  I hope you come back as a mouse and a wolf eats your ass. 

  • Evh1971

    Hello any recomendations for wolf hunting, I live in SE Idaho and am will to travel 100′s of miles and hours of driving. I will also work for free to all and any cattlemen and sheep herders to keep your investment safe, I do my part to teach wolves to stay off your land
    email me at evh1971@cableone.net 

  • KillWolvesSaveElk

    Let’s all celebrate the new regulations for wolves in Montana. Last thursday FWP comissioners passed the law for being able to trap two wolves, and shoot/hunt another in Montana. Montana Residents are now able to Kill 3 wolves a year in montana! Way to go FWP!

  • Deja vu

    Wolves have hurt the elk populations in some ares but they are not the only cause. Here is an article that (in my opinion) is fairly unbiased It goes over the major causes of the loss of elk, yes wolves are there but there is other reasons too.
    http://www.mtexpress.com/index2.php?ID=2005132633&var_Year=2010&var_Month=08&var_Day=06

    Unless I am mistaken (very possible) I believe that elk where a plains animal and that the elk in Idaho where introduced in the past.

    p.s. humans are just another predator in the food chain. It is natural for compeeting predators to have conflict. Humans are natural hunters. Hunting is just fulfilling our role in nature. We are animals just like the wolves. We hunt, as do wolves, i see no reason why we should hold our selves to a higher standard. If we cause our own extinction someday it would just be a natural thing. We would not be the first predators to hunt out prey(and our selves) into extinction. There will still be life on earth long after humans have gone the way of the t-rex.

  • http://www.facebook.com/christine.ehlers1 Christine Ehlers

    HUNTING IS AWFUL!!! What is the fun in killing a living being????

  • RDF

    What you are doing is wrong, very wrong. The balance of nature and the biodiversity of the planet is being artificially thrown out of balance. Weather is becoming more erratic, storms are stronger, heat waves are hotter, and water is becoming scarce. Wolves have contributed to the balance of nature for millennia and they have a RIGHT to exist and live with their families. Wolves are not the villains….MAN is. Livestock ranchers use public lands and even national parks to graze their livestock leaving NO room for wildlife. They have been hunted to near extinction while the human species has BRED itself into 7 billion beings killing everything in their oath. ONE DAY it will COME BACK AND BITE US IN THE ASS. All those viruses and bacteria that used to target the wild animal species will jump over to MAN and start culling the human population. Wolves are the species that keeps elk and deer populations strong by targeting weaker animals, so the strong survive. Survival of the species so to speak. IT IS DISGUSTING TO SEE A WOLF RUG ON SOME FAT, OVERGROWN HUMANS FLOOR!!!!!!! We will fight so that not only your website will come down one day, but you also will be taken down by the eventuality of what is going to happen to the human race after ALL species are wiped off the face of the earth and only humans remain with their domestic animals and farmed animals. SWINE FLU AND BIRD FLU WILL LOOK LIKE A WALK IN THE PARK WHEN MUTANT VIRUSES START ATTACKING MAN AND HIS DESTRUCTIVE AND DEADLY WAYS. YOU ARE BRAIN DEAD MURDERERS ANYWAY BECAUSE THERE AREN’T MANY WOLVES TO KILL AND WHEN THEY ARE GONE – HOPEFULLY YOU CAN START SHOOTING EACH OTHER!!!!!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1275503404 Tana Linscott

      You do know that wolves are disgusting disease ridden creatures that are infecting other species too? Wolves are not beneficial to anything. There is a reason we got rid of them in the first place. They are the apex predator; if they are not hunted, they will eventually turn on more and more humans as a food source. Why don’t you look at the moose populations? Because that will be the next thing you complain about, is no more moose. Why? Because they wolves are so unbelieveably close to wiping them out. We would like to keep our moose population, thank you very much.

  • http://www.facebook.com/MelanieJean81 Melanie Magana

    Thanks for standing up to those single minded murderers and having the balls to keep your picture on there too. They can’t show their real face because they are scared.

    • Rick King

      another agenda 21

  • Anonymous

    I don’t get it. Stopping wolves from hunting game so you could hunt the game yourself. It’s like stopping a thief from stealing so you could steal stuff yourself!

  • Makenna

    I agree with Realist. I used to be strongly against wolf hunting until I opened my eyes and realized what a bad situation we are in with wolves. I didn’t like hunters for petty, naive reasons, (omg da woof is so pwetty how can u kill it u meenie) but now I understand how needed it is. If you have a problem against wolf hunting, you need to research your facts.

  • AZ Mountain Man

    It seems that most of the discussion of wolf problems on this site are centered on Idaho and Montana. I know the situation there is bad. However, we have similar problems (on a smaller scale) in Eastern Arizona and Western New Mexico. Mexican Gray Wolves in our area are impacting ranchers and other home owners, not to mention our elk and deer populations. The liberals would even like to reintroduce grizzlies into this region. The utter stupidity of the animals rights crowd knows no bounds!

  • somsai

    The anti hunting web site Wildlife News, has found this web page. http://www.thewildlifenews.com/2012/08/07/wolves-and-bald-eagles-poisoned-in-the-bob-marshall-wilderness/#comment-146559 I’m expecting them to have a group cry. Perhaps in the spirit of friendliness someone could dedicate their first wolf kill of the season to the folks over there.

  • Defender of Independence

    ”
    Advocating breaking the law. Another so called “sportsmen” who isn’t law abiding”. \This isn’t a sport. This is people’s livelihood. This is war. When it comes to wolves eating your livestock, it’s no longer about a sportsman hunter engaging fair chase on his game, it’s threatened man protecting his property and livelihood from a merciless thief. In this case anything that works…poison, traps, fire, guns… I have more sympathy for livestock owners who abide by the triple “S” law because these damn wolves have been forced on them against their will. Several generations ago we invested a great deal of our effort in eradicating the wolf nuisance, and now “we the (oh so wise) people” have invested a great deal into reviving this age-old nuisance. Whether you think wolves should be part of the wildlife population in North America, private property owners should be allowed to enforce their boundaries. If a wolf is on your ranch, it is a threat, and it should be legal to shoot it. If it is illegal to shoot it, then there remains one of two choices: A) Protect your property and break the law. B) Be law abiding and eat the cost of lost livestock…and curse under your breath. Well, there would be a third option if we could come up with a fool-proof wolf-repellent that you shake around the borders of your property each year. So far the best wolf-repellent I know about is the ol’ .223

  • PaulCampbell420

    Does anyone know of any good places to hunt for wolves in Idaho? South western Idaho?

  • Mattias

    So, let me guess, hunting dogs is wrong? But shooting a wolf is just fine, right? Humans have no appreciation for what we are given in life, wolves are ancestors of dogs and are very closely related, would you like it if someone hunted your grandparents for sport? Wolves are endangered for the most part, but all you see is money and your precious prize of a wolf rug, its sad. I would kill a wolf if it was attacking me, but I wouldnt do it for sport, its wrong

  • Birdman

    Interesting comments about elk in the backcountry west. Here in Wisconsin (where a wolf hunt is scheduled to begin October, 2012), here’s the impact of wolves on the deer population: 1970s: white-tailed deer fluctuated between 500,000 and about 850,00 in the state. Wolves returned in about 1975 (on their own, from Minnesota) . By 1980, wolves numbered 100 in Wisconsin, and now are up to about 850. The deer population? Continued to climb in the 1980s and 90s, and now stands at about 1.5 million. Wisconsin’s deer population (and the numbers killed each year by hunters) is the highest in history. So just not the same rationale for hunting them in Wisconsin. We have too many deer, not too few. The ecosystem here needs more top predators, not fewer. About wolves killing livestock, I need to learn more about that side of it before weighing in.

  • Coondog

    Anyone know of a canyon or creek around galena or Stanley where there are good number of wolves around?

  • wolfkillerkiller

    cant wait for hunting season so i can go bag me a wolf killing 3rd grade educated hillbilly, trac em down while he tracs the wolf, then ill skin the motherfucker and and feed my him to my pitbulls

    • Killdawolves

      Dumbass if you can’t stand thought of a wolf getting shot what makes you think you could kill someone? You perverted sick son of a bitch. Deal with it. Can’t wait to fill in my wolf tags.

    • Wisconsinhunter

      If you’d like my locations so you can come out and try and track me I’d be glad to let you try. I hope your well trained by some military other than PETA you dipshit

  • Wisconsinhunter

    Hello everyone from Wisconsin, I just found out yesterday that I was selected to get a kill tag in our first hunt. I’d love any helpful input from seasoned hunters, bleeding hearted need not apply, no patience for you. I’m looking forward to what I’m sure will be many miles in the woods to locate and hopefully harvest a wolf this year.

    • ashley dewe

      you are a sick bastard, and you and everyone like you disgust me. after all the work done to bring wolves back from the brink of extinction, this is what it has returned to. slaughtering poor animals just because it makes you feel like a badass and you can have a cool souvenir dead animal on your floor. congratulations dick

      • Muttbuster

        Ashley first of all the wolves are illegal aliens brought from Canada to the U.S. on work visas who did a lot of damage to the deer and elk herds as well as some of the ranchers cattle herds. We politely asked them to stop and just return to Canada but like all those who come here and love the freedom we all enjoy they decided to stay and over populate, so now we must hunt them to bring their numbers down to a safe level that’s good for the environment and the balance needed in nature. It is really very sad to see that people like us must tolerate people like you who have no tolerance of anyone who doesn’t share your beliefs. I am sure you can find some other cause to protest or advocate for if you haven’t already run out of them. Maybe you should be more worried about the all the bugs that are dieing due to the unjust use of insecticides or all the weeds that are dieing du to the use of herbicides. I am very confident whatever the cause you will find one. Maybe one day you will wake up and see that hunting is necessary and realize it’s done for conservation not ultimate destruction of a specie.

  • Russell

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  • http://www.facebook.com/marilyn.m.holzerland Marilyn Morgan Holzerland

    Deer here in Minnesota outnumber our wolves 150:1 Here’s a link to a DNR report from 2009 and things haven’t changed really since then. I think it’s repulsive that anyone would use dogs to hunt bear and I would seriously question the statement that wolves kill bear dogs. That’s not likely.

    files.dnr.state.mn.us/fish_wildlife/…/2010/…/wolf_deer_impacts.pdf

  • http://www.facebook.com/marilyn.m.holzerland Marilyn Morgan Holzerland

    The only danger to the elk and deer would be the mighty white hunter and his dogs and traps.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1494445710 Kiara Ashanti

    Decimating?/ That is a bit of hyperbole dont you think? The deer here in the US did just fine for thousands of years with out us around. Wolfs are more important to the natural environment than we are. I cannot believe hunters of all people get so up in arms over an animal that…hunts. The populations are not that large. And really the idea that they kill deer is a reason to kill them is kind of stupid.

  • ashley dewe

    if you want them to stop eating your livestock put up a goddamn proper fence

  • Wolftye

    You are an idiot!!!! People who hunt for the thrill of the
    kill I.E. (trophy hunters), they are Broken!!!! They are trying to compensate
    and fill their sick need by murdering wolves and whatever else they can get
    away with for FUN!!! You so called hunters don’t care about the environment.
    You just want to shoot and kill something. You are not real hunters but you are
    cowards which are hiding behind a theory. This theory you believe is that you’re
    controlling the wolf population, but you so call hunters are so far from the
    truth. There are only 350 wolves in Montana alone. At one time there was over
    700,000 wolves in the United States, but hunting wiped out all of the wolves in
    this country. A true hunter, hunts for food, and only what he and his family
    can consume. Not with a High powered rifle from a helicopter and all the bells
    and whistles that he can no attach to the rifle. Nature doesn’t need humans to
    help them in controlling a population of any animal. You so-called hunters are
    hunting for a trophy or just to say I killed a wolf and you can say I’m a big
    man now!!!!!

  • sneakygrounfbuzzard

    hello fellow wolf hunters,and other hunters.
    i live in minnesots.one of the newest states to allow wolf hunting.
    when i heard that our dnr was going to FINALLY allow a wolf hunt i was ecstatic.
    so being the good sportsman that i am,i paid my fee and entered the lottery for the hunt.HOT DAMN wouldnt you know it.i was one of the 6000 luckier ones out of over 23000 that had applied for a tag.i got drawn for our late season hunt,which starts at the end of november and runs to the end of january.this is a quota based hunt.

    now being our first ever wolf hunt,and never having hunted them before.i do have some noobie type questions for those out there that have been hunting wolves in legal areas.

    is scent an issue with wolves or is movement more of a critical warning?

    what type of calls/calling works best for drawing them in?

    baiting will be legal here,so what type of baits would one use?(other than the obvious deer/gut piles)

    when field dressing,how far should one go up the chest(i want to keep the pelt as pristine as possible for the taxi dermi guy)

    any good info is appreciated,so all of you bleeding heart liberal environmentalist animal lovers please dont respond.

    i to love animals,have had pets all my life.but i also love the great outdoors and my hunting heritage.i take my hunting rights very serious.i dont just hunt to kill,i hunt to help the environment.

    thanks in advance for all the good input

    peace,
    and remember “aim small.miss small”

    • Muttbuster

      I talked to a fish and game officer here in idaho and he says that a good cover scent is a must as well as staying low and using good camo, he recommended using an elk call to bring them in or a coyote call. I wish you a good and successful hunt and encourage you to call the fish and game in Idaho or Montana for any advice, ask to speak with a wildlife biologist.

  • Jack

    You lot are rewards.hunt with knives.

    • Jack

      Cowards..goddamn autospell

  • sneaky ground buzzard

    I hunt with what the state says is legal.
    A knife would be illegal in the state i live.
    I believe becuause it would be considered inhumane to kill with a knife

  • Whackemstackem

    Sneaky, i am also in MN…. what area are you huinting? I’m going in 184 (on the deer area map)….just curious where other hunters are trying…………are you calling?

  • sneaky ground buzzard

    whackemstackem,i havent decided on an area as of yet.tkim hunting the late season.so i can hunt any area in the wolf zone.i dont own any land,so its more than likely gonna be on public land.i do have some relatives up near the motley area,gonna try and see if they know of any wolves in that area,and see if some land owners will let me hunt.the area you plan on hunting should be good.that part of the state is supposed to have quite a few of them.
    i do have a buddy up in duluth whos retired from the DNR.he was in fisheries,but i am sure he knows where some wolves would be up in that area.so im gonna pic his brain also.

    you hunting early season or late?

    i do plan on calling,but not spending money on calls.i can howl quite well.fools a lot of people when we are at zoos.not to mention scares the hell out of my cats lol.

    you using bait?

    been curious about baiting them.

  • Really Now

    Wow how can you even justify put a wolf skin rug in your house? Wolves are basically dogs, and if you own a dog and hunt wolves…Just wow

  • wolfman.

    All I can say is congrats to the 5 lucky Wisconsin hunters who already killed a wolf. The season started Oct 15th, keep up the great work.—- Check this story out. http://www.petersenshunting.com/2012/10/16/graphic-photos-wisconsin-wolf-pack-kills-hunting-dog/#.UIAyhf0Ro-8.link

  • sneaky ground buzzard

    yes congrats to those in wisconsin whom have become the first there to aquire a great trophy.

    @really now: i do plan on getting a rug made if i am lucky enough to kill a wolf. i dont own dogs, and dont ever plan on it.hell i dont even like them.so killing a wolf to me is just another LEGAL GAME ANIMAL.
    im a cat person.had pet cats all my life and still do we are just getting a population of mountain lions here in minnesota.when we get enough and the state decides to allow a hunt.you better believe i will be applying for a tag.

    just a little history on myself for ya too.
    as a kid i spent a lot of time on my grandparents farm.like the entire summer break from school,from 1st grade up untill i was sixteen.we used to kill packs of ferel dogs for fun.city folks would get rid of their unwanted pets by dropping them off in the country.they would turn ferel,and then start killing chickens etc on the farms.so we protected our families lively hood be getting rid of them as needed.
    so killing a wolf,aint no differant to me.they kill lots of live stock every year here,and more out west.

    once again,congrats to all those (in all the legal states)whom have gotten their wolf so far this year.

  • whackemstackem

    sneaky- I am hunting late season, calling . no bait. I’ve been predator hunting for several years using open reed mouth calls. called hundreds of fox and coyote, as well as bobcat, and even bear. I did call a pack of six wolves 2 winters ago using only a fawn in distress, …..was an awesome sight to see….was picked off right away, they knew i was there before i even saw them, but, it was a good learning expierience…..North of the Motley area is a Huge management area called Meadowbrook off hwy 64, near Leader….I have also seen wolves there several times bear hunting over baits…….Good luck, happy hunting.

  • whackemstackem

    Just found this sight recently…..As a long time hunter, houndsman, and predator caller living in rural MN its nice to see hunters sharing information with each other….great community you guys have going here…..really sucks to have to read through 40,000 ANTI posts to find one by a hunter ( who usually has proven facts to back up what they are talking about) ……anyways, great input from those of you in the field, I’ll keep wading through the synthetic fabric wearing, tofu eaters posts (don’t you guys have scentsy partys or yoga classes to attend?) to see what you all have to say. –thanx, –Another dropout, redneck, hillbilly, murdering, Baiting, trapping, fur wearing,carnivore. happy hunting.

  • sneaky ground buzzard

    whackem: i have been to that WMA a few weeks back and walked around for about 5 hours,that place is huge over 5000 acres. any idea which part of it i should focus my attention on? i found one area that i thought may have potential.if you take the minimum maintenance road all the way back and to the right. there is a nice big field lined with woods around it. any idea what kind of conditions the roads are like in winter out there.do they ever get cleared or is hiking all the way back in the only real way of getting back there when the snow is on the ground. i am trying to find some private land in that area to hunt. need to ask locals in the area if they know of any farmers who have had problems with the wolves killing livestock.thanks for the info and any more you can provide.

    i too agree about the anti hunters that come on here just to bitch.
    i would like to know where they think the meat in the local grocery store comes from.some one has to kill and butcher them animals to.hunting is much much more human than any modern day slaughter house is.
    they must think that when you go to a farm you see packaged meat running and frolicking thru the fields.just waiting for the delivery truck to come and take them to the meat dept. of their local stores.cant tell me most of them dont enjoy a nice fat juicy steak.

    i wonder if any of them have enough common sense to realize that it is eating meat that allowed the human brain to develop to the level it has. the protien in the meat is needed for better brain development.

    to bad their ancestors werent more like them and been anti hunters.then maybe they wouldnt have survived long enough to have bred such ignorant off spring.

    any hoo

    good luck come november 24th.let me know how you do.
    or even if you need/want a hunting companion.i dont have any hunting buddies for anything other than spring turkey,then the wife and or my youngest son(when home on leave) come hunting with me.been thin king about getting into predator hunting,but no idea of what to do with them after i would shoot them.

    thanks again for the info

    peace,
    Tim

  • sneaky ground buzzard

    i was out walking a WMA today,doing some grouse hunting and scouting for wolf. the wife and i walked down the main trail had one flush in four hours.didnt get a shot. we walked 2.6 miles in, then decided it was time to get headed back. as dark would be in 2 hours. we walked the same trail back, and as always looking for sign on the trail. when low and behold what do i see on the trail. a fairly fresh and large pile of wolf scat. it was not there on our way in,there was no way we would have missed it. i spotted it by well over ten foot away. it was still very moist, and soft but not warm. it couldnt have been there for more than an hour and a half. as we were just there that long ago. i had inspected it. it was full of deer hair, and about 1.5″ in diameter with tapered ends and dark in color. no tracks were visible as this trail is cut grass and also covered in leaves this time of year. i took pics but dont know how to post them from my android phone. i did a google search to compare and it looks right. so now i just need my season to start as i now know where i will be hunting. this also means i can finally dedicate my time to scouting this are well and putting together a game plan and hope for the best hunt possible.
    oh ya, that would be one that ends with a wolf skin rug.
    got my new Tikka T3 .270 sighted in yesterday. that thing sure shoots sweet. 3 shot group smaller than my thumbnail at 100 yds.
    wish me luck come Novemebr 24th.

  • whackemstackem

    sneaky- i always hunted off of that same field, hunted bear off of the one lower corner….that is the area i have seen wolves…………

    • whackemstackem

      P.s.-the roads are usually real good…..gets alot of traffic…..

  • Friend of the people

    Do you understand that these animals are putting ranchers and farmer out off business because they are killing herds if sheap eating baby lambs as well as calves and horses not to mention all the other wildlife they are killing Dailey . It is easy for you people to set in the comfort of your homes and offices and say save the wolves but what about my good friend a Montana Rancher that has watched his and his family’s way of life and living gone . Kill them all

  • rsdfcghbn

    gross mean killers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  • sneaky ground buzzard

    do any of you anti hunters eat meat? if so that would make you all hypocrites.

    for one can not eat meat with out an animal being killed.

    mean gross killers: well for it to be mean one would have to bludgeon them to death with a club or other such weapon.using a rifle or bow is a very human way of dispatching an animal.much much more human than what happens at modern slaughter houses.

    what is really mean is for you anti hunters to come onto a hunting site and try and tell me and other hunters what we should or shouldn’t do.
    as we live in a free country that gives me and others the right to hunt such animals as the grey wolf.it also gives others,like yourselves,the right to not hunt.
    freedom of speech or not,does not give you the right to tell me i cant hunt. especially when the law states that i have that right.

    so as far as i am concerned you have the right to remain silent,or just plain shut the hell up.

  • AmicusBrief

    The only thing I’ve learned from this site is the US needs to spend more money on teaching English than wolf management.

  • whackemstackem

    Juzt kaws we kant spellz. Doeznt meen we kant Kill. U kant stop us kaws lyke it or knot……spelling a syde. We r more ed-jew-ma-kated than u. If we (sportsmen in general)…..were in fact, such dumb hillbilly murderers….we should be easy to stop. But, since you never seem to have any facts or findings to back up anything you say…..we (the dumb ones who can’t even spell) seem to prevail every time. Weird? AND, we are raising generations to come, follow in our footsteps. They will continue to fight on our front….protecting the way of life that has been in this country from the start.
    Teaching youth the importance of hunting, respect for the outdoors, and values that can’t be found in a classroom. The sense of family, and tradition of a hunting camp. As the generations before us. It’s not about trophys or just a kill. And if it were so senseless and brutal…we would have been stopped a long time ago…….But the only fight you ever seem to have is ….”they are so pretty”….or “you can’t spell”…….wow, that has got you a long ways……….As I prepare to leave for deer camp with my 14 year old daughter this weekend…..we will be scouting for our wolf hunt….something i also hope to share with her. And i know that someday she will share the stories with her children, in the same camp…..because generations from now, they will still be going…..besause, once again….as dumb as we are……you can’t seem to beat us. what’s that say about you?

  • sneaky ground buzzard

    my typos are due to the fact that my post come from a my android phone and its dumb ass touch screen.

    and yes i agree with you AmicusBrief,we DO need to spend more money on education in the US.gad dang plotician keeps cutting that budget so we can send more financial aid over seas to country who dont even like us.but thats a topic for another site at another time ;)

    whackem: good luck on your deer hunt and upcoming wolf hunt.

    lets hear the tail of the hunt when your finished.i plan on telling the tail of my wolf hunt and definitely post pics if i get my wolf.

    heres a pic of the rifle i bought just for wolf hunting. its a Tikka T3 .270
    even my cat says its good one for shooting a wolf lol

    • paige

      thats a stupid picture

  • i hate hunt

    oi

  • i hate hunt

    This is stupid and cruel idiots

  • Kayt

    I would just like to say that I have a few pix of wolf depradation. and they aren’t pretty or cute.

  • AmicusBrief

    I wonder how many of the anti-hunting crowd would react differently if they actually saw what wolves do to maim their prey out of sport. Apparently, they’ve never seen a young elk or moose calf with its nose and rectum ripped to shreds and not eaten, but left by the pack in search of more blood lust. These animals
    are not lap dogs, they’re vicious killers.

    To the person who said that there are only 350 wolves left in Montana…one answers my howler and there’s gonna be 349.

  • Dash-911

    there aren’t that many gray wolves anymore
    stupid
    there are enough elk to go around
    just trying to think of excuses to kill more wolves
    wait for their population to grow some more
    then you can hunt them

  • Dash-911

    if you kill wolves

    as you are saying

    then you ARE making more elk

    but still less wolves

    unrelated: i bet you are voting for Romney

  • Dash-911

    cuz you think like a Republican
    stupid

  • sneaky ground buzzard

    the Minnesota early season for wolf started today.

    congratulations to the 32 folks that got theirs today.

    thats right,there was 32 registered wolves by 10 pm this evening(the daily deadline to registor a kill )

    hope the hunting is still this good come the 24th when my season starts.

  • AmicusBrief

    @Dash-911, I suspect you know as much about wolves as you do about grammar. There’s an old idiom; it’s better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

  • sneaky ground buzzard

    well after a week of wolf hunting here in Minnesota
    we have 87 wolves killed.lower than what our DNR was expecting.
    they were expecting 70 just on the first week end.
    this will be the last weekend in most of the wolf zones,and early season will end
    on the 18th.
    i dont think they are going to hit the quota of 200 wolves for the early season.
    however our late season wolf hunt starts on the 24th of this month.what ever doesnt get met in the early season quota,will roll over to the late season quota.
    with a total of 400 wolves allowed to be taken.

    man i cant wait until the 24th to get here. i am so stoked for my wolf hunt.
    i have the whole week before the 24th off of work,and plan on spending many many hours scouting my hunting area.sure would be nice to get a few inches of snow before then.

  • Bella

    You are ridiculous. Wolves were placed here on the planet for a reason, by our heavenly Creator. We have a serious overpopulation issue with deer, and wolves are helping to control that. You can’t just go around saying, “Oh, wolves killed a few cows, how about we kill them all off?” We as humans do NOT have the right to do that. Wolves have never attacked a human or an animal without reason. Unlike us, they can’t just drive down to the supermarket and buy some chips- they have to hunt to eat and survive. Actually go out into nature and watch these animals. It’s is stupid stupid stupid. Yu are just looking for an excuse to hunt.

  • sneaky ground buzzard

    ridiculous you say

    well you bible thumping liberal

    you need to go read your bible a little more thoroughly

    im not a religious person,hell i dont even believe in organized religion.
    but i do know that the bible states that man has domain over all other creatures placed on the earth.

    sounds to me like that says right there that we have the right to hunt them.

    just for folks like you,if and when i kill my wolf.

    i plan on posting pics and telling the tale in great detail

    just so you know right up front,the pics will include the field kill photo,gutting photos,skinning photos,and of course the rug photo when i get it back from the taxidermist. ;)

    like wolves i hunt to eat.and if you eat meat you have absolutely no right to bitch about hunters.we are much more human than a slaughter house.

    sounds to me like you are just looking for a reason to bitch.

    and if you dont like us hunters,why come to a web site that is hunting based.once again just so you can bitch.

    i dont come to your religious sites and tell you how we were not created but evolved into the dominant creature on the planet.how did that happen.

    oh lets see.man started to eat meat,the protien in the meat allowed are brains higher development.which in turn allowed us to become creative.this allowing us to become tool makers,which then made us into hunters.

    so get off your high almighty soap box,grab your little fiddle and go play cry me a river someplace else.you whiny ass bitching little liberal

  • sneaky ground buzzard

    heres how “sweet and cuddly” wolves can be.

    i hope the link works,if not copy and paste it.just a little something i came across.

    http://www.charter.net/tv/3/player/vendor/Tribune%20Broadcasting/player/fiveminute/asset/gnrc_17996405

  • The Loop

    “What is it, do you think. about these animals, that makes people hate them so much?”
    “About wolves? I don’t know. Maybe they’re too much like us. We look at them and see ourselves. Loving, caring, social creatures who also happen to be terrific killers.”
    Eleanor considered this awhile.
    “Maybe it’s envy too.”
    “Of what?”
    “That they’re still part of nature and we’ve forgotten how to be.”

    • Dark_Laser

      Who is Elanor? Elanor Roosevelt?

  • wolf

    you soulless demons kill for sport and disobey the law my spirit guide is a wolf and you want to kill his kin. ill lagh when justice is served and a wolf puts his jaws on your neck.

  • sneaky ground buzzard

    ya well my spirit guide is a hunter.
    i dont kill for sport,i kill for meat to put in the freezer and on the table.
    and i do plan on eating the wolf when i kill him,then his spirit will be in me and i will become like the wolf.
    a better hunter :)

  • Jaguar5

    Fuck all of you hunters. You are bunch of narrow minded godless houligans. You have no respect for nature otherwise you would not be persecuting these animals.

    • paige

      i dont eat fish because u
      kill them

    • Nate

      No I believe you showed us that YOU are the narrow minded jack wagon liberal P.O.S.

  • sneaky ground buzzard

    yup us hunters have no respect for nature,

    we just so happen to be to the largest group of environmentalist on the planet.

    the dollars we spend on license got to improve the environment.

    what exactly do you do to improve the environment?

    other than pollute it with your ignorance

    as far as godless goes,yup your right on that

    i dont believe in religion or a god.

    i believe every person has the right to pray to whom ever or what ever gods they want.me i pray to ARTEMIS the goddess of the hunt.it works for me. ive filled all my tags but one so far this year.and i am bound and determined to fill my wolf tag yet.and with the help of the almighty ARTEMIS it will happen.

    i will post pics of it.

    jaguar5 why not post your email then i can send pics directly to you from the field when its laying there with a nice .270 caliber hole in it and blood oozing out. lol

  • WhiteEuroAmerican

    Humans are a plague, eaters of the world.
    They bring death for all creatures, even their own kind.
    They do not seek to live with the world, they just seek to consume it.

  • sneaky ground buzzard

    are you speaking for yourself there whiteEuroAmerican?

    as for me, i try to the best of my ability to live WITH the world,and only consume what i need to survive. every thing i kill while hunting,i eat and try to use as much of the critter as possible.
    take deer for instance.i eat the meat,keep the hides for leather and rawhide.leg and back strap sinew for hafting items(like knapped arrow heads and knife blades),leg bones for handles of knives and other tools.rib bones make great wind chimes. jaw bones make a nice cicle for cutting grasses etc. hooves also make great chimes for like entry doors etc. and the list goes on and on.
    not all hunters are wastefull or hunt just for sport. a lot of us do it to feed our families. just like it has been done for tens of thousands of years.

  • sneaky ground buzzard

    are you speaking for yourself there whiteEuroAmerican?

    as for me, i try to the best of my ability to live WITH the world,and only consume what i need to survive. every thing i kill while hunting,i eat and try to use as much of the critter as possible.
    take deer for instance.i eat the meat,keep the hides for leather and rawhide.leg and back strap sinew for hafting items(like knapped arrow heads and knife blades),leg bones for handles of knives and other tools.rib bones make great wind chimes. jaw bones make a nice cicle for cutting grasses etc. hooves also make great chimes for like entry doors etc. and the list goes on and on.
    not all hunters are wastefull or hunt just for sport. a lot of us do it to feed our families. just like it has been done for tens of thousands of years.

  • Mac Olsen

    So, Diana, AKA BITCH, you think you know it all! You can just generalize me as being an outright wolf hater. Well, BITCH! Think again! I don’t support the outright eradication of wolves. I have a respect for wolves as predators. But when they decimate livestock populations or big game populations, then they have to be brought under control, and if that means that some of them have to be shot, THEN SO BE IT! Also, I bet you have never had a close encounter with a wolf. One day, 11 years ago, I was driving up a highway in northern Manitoba late at night and I saw a wolf coming from the opposite direction. As I passed it, I had the feeling it would have turned and attacked me, had it been given the opportunity. IT LOOKED VERY AGGRESSIVE AS I WAS PASSING IT! That was an unnerving experience. HAVE YOU EVER HAD A CLOSE ENCOUNTER WITH A WOLF? If you haven’t THEN SHUT THE HELL UP BECAUSE YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT! Where I live in Alberta now, there have been lots of wolf attacks on livestock and the owners lose thousands and thousands of dollars per animal – in effect, their investments and livelihood – when than that happens. So, I think about and have a respect for their livelihood. WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO PAY THE LIVESTOCK OWNERS FOR THEIR LOSSES IN ORDER TO LET THE WOLVES RUN FAST AND FREE ON THEIR LIVESTOCK? ARE YOU WILLING TO HAND YOUR MONEY TO THEM IN COMPENSATION WHEN THAT HAPPENS? I doubt it! Admitted, I haven’t harvested a wolf, and I want to get one or two in the future. But I’m not going to go out and kill every one that I see, if I do get the opportunity to hunt them. I have shot three wolves, one each year for the last three years. But they were presenting a threat to the landowner’s chickens, cats, etc. I didn’t go out after them aggressively as you stereotypically would say about me. I only got them because I was in the right place at the right time and I didn’t use a call of any kind to lure them in either. I HAVEN’T GOT PILES AND PILES OF COYOTE PELTS IN MY COLLECTION, AS YOU WOULD INSINUATE ABOUT ME! Oh, and as for the environment, I support Ducks Unlimited Canada every year, to preserve wetlands. I also go to Ducks Unlimited banquets every year, to support their fundraising efforts. Also, there’s an organization here in Alberta called the Alberta Conservation Association that works with landowners and companies to buy sections of private land for preservation and recreational use. I have found some of these facilities in my area and had the chance to go through them, and I think it’s great that they’re available for the general public to access. And I’m sure that, wherever you’re located, there are similar programs or people and organizations that would help to buy such lands for everyone to enjoy and use – for posterity. Also, keep in mind – HUNTERS ARE CONSERVATIONISTS TOO! We just do it in a less fanatical way compared to rabid environmental groups like Green Peace! So, Diana – AKA BITCH – GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE! YOU’RE THE FOOL! YOU’RE THE ONE WHO IS CLOSED MINDED ABOUT THE WOLF ISSUE! TAKE OFF YOUR BLINDERS AND EDUCATION YOURSELF IN THE REAL WORLD – AND NOT JUST OFFER RHETORIC SITTING IN A STARBUCK’S COFFEE SHOP OVER A LATTE.

    CASE CLOSED!

    • paige

      girl good job

  • sneaky ground buzzard

    here ya go,soft and cuddly you bet

    not gonna say anymore,just click the link and read the whole story

    http://www.newsminer.com/view/full_story/21161974/article-Wolf-attacks-trapper-on-snowmachine-near-Tok?instance=home_news_window_left_top_1#ixzz2FPA8FSqV

  • Melanie Lotus
  • Muskrat

    This was all that was left of a coyote killed by wolves last week. Picture this as your pet dog, or your kid.

    • T.H.

      In the last 100 years, human hunters have accidentally killed 50 times more people than wild wolves have.

      • justice

        So that really doesn’t matter what matters is that all the people that think that wolves are cute and cuddly have obviously never seen on. and for all those retards out there that live in the city and have never seen anything but city walls, get the hell out of this!!! you don’t know what they do or what they have done. so if you are sitting in your little apartment looking at pictures online, then shut the fuck up!!!!! i am sick of your shit, wolves need to be hunted, period.

  • jesse james

    Benefits????? I see the only benefit going to the state. The hunters have lost, the rancher has lost, the small towns have lost????? What Benefits????? Another in the long line of bull shit propaganda and lies perpetrated by these wolf lover cultist sponsored by the gaggle of government biologists staggering around with pot smoking brain washed crap! There is no benefactor here; just a very long line of people cutting their looses. NO MORE WOLVES, OR GOVERNMENT GESTAPO!

  • Jim

    hey yall, I was hoping one of you out there can give me a good spot or area to do some wolf hunting in the Idaho panhandle. I keep seeing all these pics of these huge wolves guys are harvesting, and I want one!….. besides, as an avid elk and deer hunter, I figure its the least I could do to keep our herd numbers up. Thanks

  • Richard Rheaume

    This is the sickest site I have ever seen. I wish you all a slow death from a painful and grotesque disease.

  • thinker

    People obviously hunt and kill for sport. If wolves do the same, is that wrong? What’s the difference? Perhaps to even things up wolf hunters should be hunted as well. Now THAT would make it sporty! For example, MarkinID would likely make a wonderful wall mount

  • Reality22

    People need to go out of their way to get rid of litigators like these five introduce the wolf bill last week…… This is more about a group like Howling for wolves to get there “Donate now” button pressed than anything. The state has to kill over 200 of the vermin every year to keep them in line. They have been for almost a decade. Had delisting gone through in 2003 the five year wait would have been OK. The abuse of the Endangered Species Act is quite evident when it comes to wolves. The International environmental organization list the gray wolf as a species of “Least Concern” yet these people wear their hearts out on their sleeve for this disgusting animal. What about the thousands of domestic animals the wolf maimed and killed in the last decade? Like I said …. its more about getting the donate now button pressed than anything. Disgusting,,,, send these legislators packing!

  • Karin Ryan

    You are disgusting people .Wolves only kill for food..YOU do it for fun.

    • Nate

      Wrong…..they do not only kill for food. 100% fabricated lie.

  • somsai
  • gary

    The object of this wolf reintroduction thing is being perpetrated by the enemies of the American people. The purpose is to decrease elk and deer herds as much as possible to reduce survivability of American people when the real trouble begins. To fill the woods with human predators for the same reason, to reduce our survivability. America is being Bolchevized so take a lesson from history of Russia and the Ukraine, educate yourselves, there is much more to this wolf thing than reintroduction!

  • shecky

    The object of this wolf reintroduction thing is being
    perpetrated by the enemies of the American people. The purpose is to decrease
    elk and deer herds as much as possible to reduce survivability of American
    people when the real trouble begins. To fill the woods with human predators for
    the same reason, to reduce our survivability. America is being Bolchevized so
    take a lesson from history of Russia and the Ukraine, educate yourselves, there
    is much more to this wolf thing than reintroduction!

  • none of your buisness

    damn you hunters!!!! all you do is hunt wolves more and more til they become extinct.well i think they should stay on planet earth. if i could i would hang myself to save the wolf species. the wolves have a purpose on earth, and if they become extinct then that will leave a huge whole in the food chain. they were put on earth for a reason. and that is to keep most animal species the right amount. BUT THEY ARE NOT PUT ON EATH TE BE HUNTED DOWN AND SOLD FOR OUR OWN PURPOSE. so to all those peopl who hunt wolves, GO TO H***

    • none of your buisness

      and yes i know, they do bad things to other animls sometime, but its not like we don’t do the same. cause humans do that to animals too.

  • Lucifer

    Wol

  • Lucifer

    Oh you mean one of the nail heads to a wall that is sick

    • swag

      WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN. YOU ARE THE BIGGEST RETARD EVER.

  • Just Trying To Help

    (Before anyone starts calling me an ignorant liberal, I’m a VERY conservative republican going to school to be a vet hopefully with a minor in wildlife ecology, and I want my thesis research to be about wolves, and for the guy who posted pics, anyone who thinks wolves are cuddly, harmless animals are also dumb and don’t respect the wolf for what it is. wolves are top predators, so yes, they kill for a living, but anyways)

    There’s strong research to show that killing wolves actually increases the amount they need to kill. Wolves rely heavily on social structure to dictate how they hunt. When you kill off important pack members, the pack gets confused and scared. They have to make a kill, eat what they can, and run. This leads to more kills than an established pack, who can hang around and eat the whole caracas. I come from a farming community so I’m very sympathetic of farmers and ranchers. But, if you’re going to build a remote ranch in isolated, wild country, you should expect predators. There are a lot of ways to keep wolves away from livestock, without killing them, and more research is going on about it now. And as for there being a shortage of large game, there’s usually too many, so many that the forests are being stripped bare by overpopulation, especially deer in our area. Yes, there may not be enough game for everyone to kill as many as they want, but thats greedy, and doesn’t improve human character. Wolves however, improve the herds. They kill the weak and the sick, and leave the big healthy racks alone, for the most part. They want the easiest kills, which are the small, weak ones no one wants to hunt anyways. Whether some people like it or not, wolves are an important part of the American wild, and I think true Americans should want to keep it that way. God has given us a beautiful world to take care of, and I believe not killing off wolves is part of this.

  • super marshall

    i absolutly disagree with hunting grey wolves.

  • paige

    i like wolves but if they kiled my dog i would kill those dumb butts but we really dont have any by us so
    l

  • Dirt1985

    Our for fathers spent years trying to get rid of these pests. Why do we think we are so much smarter than them. I believe we should set some wolves free in the middle of the twin city’s and c how them hippes like it if they don’t like how we do things in the woods where we actually live with the wolves than stay in ur big city’s and go to the zoo where wolves should live

  • wolfies

    wolves aren’t bad, they hunt weak, old, and sick animals.

  • cameback

    How about using your website to promote responsible wildlife managment and giving more truthful information about ungulate populations (there are way too many). How about telling people about thef act that where wolves roam the bio diversity is returning. The ungulates destroy the plant life when left unchecked and allowed to feed without the proper balance predators bring. Imagine what you could do if you turned your hate into something worthwhile.

  • Victoria

    Wolves are not pests. They are beautiful creatures. Some of the comments on this page are absolutely ridiculous. Unless you are planning to eat that wolf you are planning on shooting you are a REDNECK ASSHOLE and I really hope you miss the shot and the wolf eats you instead. At least then your meat will be for sustenance for the wolf as opposed to a trophy to hang on the wall. If you really want to manage wolf populations there are responsible management techniques available. You all should probably read the post titled” Just trying to help.” It is sensible, intelligent and written by someone who actually knows what he is talking about.

  • Erica Gabriel

    I cannot sleep at night unless I fap to the fantasy of being there to see the last wolf on Earth die so that they finally go extinct!

  • yvonne

    i will pray everyday that wolf hunters/haters be reincarnated as food for wolves. the hunters brain are as big as the bullets they use. wolves are beautiful animals that balance the ecosystem of the wilderness. the wild is not for humans, humans should just watch tv n eat n sleep n die.